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    Quote Originally Posted by Password View Post
    There is this republican talking point as to how everyone seemed to be a dummie who entered into a risky ARM. We're not just talking "sub-prime".

    There are a number of factors why there is a mortgage CRISIS, just one of which is buyer mistake. A larger factor is the greed of the lender/broker. All they wanted was to maximize their own profits as the market was booming. Another factor is one the republicans are loathe to ever admit.

    They do not ever want to admit that the economy was struggling for quite some time and the ripple effect is finally apparent to the masses.

    Yes, Mr Bush has been less than proactive in dealing with the ever plunging economy. His Stubborness waits till things implode before he ever does anything...except for Iraq, which was not going to implode until he invaded.
    Apparently you have a problem separating facts from emotion. Remember that Congress holds the purse strings, NOT the president. The democrat-led congress didn't do anything to help matters, did they? Besides, we have a free market system in which things are best for when government steps out of the way.

    We could get into a lengthy discussion about greed and whatnot, but the bottom line is that people took out loans for which they didn't have the resources to meet the terms. But, don't think that those people are the only ones payign the consequences. Most of those lenders are now out of business or on their way out of business. They have suffered the consequences of their actions, as well.

    If we are going to objectively assess situations, we need to be able to remove emotion from the situation. You seem to be bent on the greed of the lenders, but what about the greed of the borrowers to get as much money as they could for as little as they could? Why did they have to be so greedy as to want to take a loan at really low interest rates? Isn't that ripping off the lender?

    Remember that everything in life works two ways. You can't say the lender was greedy without also saying the borrower was greedy.

    Besides that, the economy was fine and was doing better than at any other point in history (DOW 14,000 and highest government revenues ever, for example). Yet, I wonder why it is that people who don't like Bush are happy to point out that the economy isn't as vibrant now as it was 6 months ago? Why do they revel in bad news for our country?

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    Default Re: Filing Taxes has Never Been easier

    Quote Originally Posted by skipster View Post
    Somehow, matclone, you seem to think that any time I post something it is a lie, just because I posted it.
    Not any time, just most of the time. But it's like you to twist, obfuscate, or fabricate other's statements. You've proven yourself a liar time and time again on this forum. You waste everyone's time by making up facts on the fly, as you routinely do. Calling yourself "truthful and accurate" is like Fox saying they're are "fair and balanced". On second thought, that comparison probably isn't fair to Fox.

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    I've proven myself a liar?? I post truthful facts and data directly from the concerned parties' websites or other literature.

    But, whenever anyone posts something that you don't like, you just declare them a liar and use no facts.

    So, while you live in the world of feelings, I post from the world of data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipster View Post
    I've proven myself a liar?? I post truthful facts and data directly from the concerned parties' websites or other literature.

    But, whenever anyone posts something that you don't like, you just declare them a liar and use no facts.

    So, while you live in the world of feelings, I post from the world of data.
    He (or she) doesn't like you much at all, which probably biases his view of your postings. You must have made a mistake at some point, which makes you a liar.

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    How did we get back on subprime?

    Since we're here, I do now feel bad about one aspect of the subprime situation. Pets are being abandoned by homeowners who are skating away from their mortgage obligations:
    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...wOTaNO5TMMFYqw

    The pets are the only innocent party, and they are the ones suffering the most.

    Quote Originally Posted by Password View Post
    There is this republican talking point as to how everyone seemed to be a dummie who entered into a risky ARM. We're not just talking "sub-prime".

    There are a number of factors why there is a mortgage CRISIS, just one of which is buyer mistake. A larger factor is the greed of the lender/broker. All they wanted was to maximize their own profits as the market was booming. Another factor is one the republicans are loathe to ever admit.

    They do not ever want to admit that the economy was struggling for quite some time and the ripple effect is finally apparent to the masses.

    Yes, Mr Bush has been less than proactive in dealing with the ever plunging economy. His Stubborness waits till things implode before he ever does anything...except for Iraq, which was not going to implode until he invaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    He (or she) doesn't like you much at all, which probably biases his view of your postings. You must have made a mistake at some point, which makes you a liar.
    Not mistakes, as in accidents. Intentional lies--which deserve nothing but contempt in my book. You can re-read his initial post and see the current ones--or not. There's nothing I can do but point them out occasionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    The pets are the only innocent party, and they are the ones suffering the most.
    To quote Sophia Loren, speaking to a Nazi officer who was trying to justify German attacks on Italian villages: "And what about the children?".

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    Default Re: Filing Taxes has Never Been easier

    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    He (or she)...
    What's this? Your version of a cheap shot? It's a lot easier to take sides than to think, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    To quote Sophia Loren, speaking to a Nazi officer who was trying to justify German attacks on Italian villages: "And what about the children?".
    You're right, I feel bad for them too.

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