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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance174 View Post
    Is it that people actually like the job their reps are doing or they are just used to voting for them? What was that movie where Eddie Murphy played a character that got into congress on name recognition? I am beginning to think that the movie wasn't too far off the mark.
    If your local congressman is getting local proejcts funded and bringing in Federal money to his district, he is creating jobs and is a hero.
    If a congressman in the next state is doing the same, he is using earmarks to reward his supporters and adding pork to the Federal budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I share your opinion for the most part, but I also believe that many politicians put themselves first and will do whatever it takes within legal parameters to raise funds and win reelection. They are often more concerned with image than substance, and vote in ways that will do them the most good, not necessarily the country.
    Most politicians like their jobs and want to stay in office.
    It is obvious what is needed to be re-elected and that is fund raise and make (probaby for the most part) reasonable comporomises to fund their re-election.

    I used to think it was ridiculous, but Federal funding of campaigns seems to be a workable solution, even if it may be unconstitutional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that we don't want to allocate funds for recent immigrants because of their cultural differences?
    I mean there's a tendency for people to both accept and disseminate misinformation about people they don't like or trust because they are different in some way, even people they don't know.

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    I think that the point of the original [mis]information was that a relatively exhorbitant sum was being offered to people who have done little to earn it, while many long term citizens who have contributed to the system are struggling.
    Yes, an obvious appeal to our sense of fairness (how unfair!). To my first point, why would someone willingly disseminate this bit of misinformation (thinking of the person who substituted "American" for "Canadien" for example)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    I mean there's a tendency for people to both accept and disseminate misinformation about people they don't like or trust because they are different in some way, even people they don't know.



    Yes, an obvious appeal to our sense of fairness (how unfair!). To my first point, why would someone willingly disseminate this bit of misinformation (thinking of the person who substituted "American" for "Canadien" for example)?
    I'm not so sure that the impact of the original post was heightened by feelings of bias against immigrants. I think it was just that we think of social security funds as being a bank account for those who contributed to benefit from later. I know it's not that simple, but that's the feeling. The unfairness was that people who didn't pay into the system can receive such relatively large sums from it.

    No matter anyway - it was a fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    If your local congressman is getting local proejcts funded and bringing in Federal money to his district, he is creating jobs and is a hero.
    If a congressman in the next state is doing the same, he is using earmarks to reward his supporters and adding pork to the Federal budget.
    Good call. I was thinking of adding something like this to my original post.

    As for name recognition, I think that's a big part of it. I would be willing to bet that 75%+ of American voters can't name their house rep, and the same number or higher can't name both of their state's senators.

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