Please. Let's not attribute the decision to invade Iraq to "bad intelligence" or refer to the "ineptitude" of a group of nameless, faceless professionals. If they were "inept", so was Clinton for keeping "them" on (like Democrats, they're all the same I suppose), and then so was Bush for keeping them on.

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What I think is worse is that our enemies say the same things the democrats do. Al-sadyr says that the US should have a timetable for leaving Iraq, just like Reid, Pelosi, and the bunch. Bin laden released statements during the 2004 presidential campaign that said he had the same values and ideas for the US leaving the middle east that John Kerry did. Much of the insurgency says that the US has lost the war, just like Harry Reid said.

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Perhaps it doesn't scare other people, but it scares me that those who want to lead our country are so closely aligned ideologically with those who want to kill us!! Perhaps they don't understand that Al-Sadyr and the bunch want to kill all of us, whether we agree with them or not. But, I find it unconscionable that some people could get behind a peson or group of people whose words match those of the people who try to kill us.

No one would have voted for someone during 1944 who agreed with Hitler and said we should leave WWII, but some people today will vote for those who agree with those who want to kill us.

If Al Sadr says Americans should not jump off of the bridge, I am assuming all the Republicans will jump.

I get it, Skipster, Democrats are our enemy. How we failed to notice this, I do not understand.

Originally Posted by RYou

We've been down this road before...9 months into his Presidency, Bush had not gotten around to replacing the national security staff from the Clinton administration....all of the top intelligence folks had been in place 4 + years and we're the source of any bogus information that existed. If there was an American conspiracy, it was in the ineptitude led by the Clinton administrators.

So Bush gets a free pass for doing nothing during those 9 months? You just proved why we should fear a republican in office. The attacks happened 9 months after Bush got into office. During that time, he was on vacation most of the time and didn't even bother to look at the intelligence. You can't be more irresponsible than that. It dosen't take 9 months to replace the staff. Interesting, that during Clinton's time, there was never a disaster with the magnitude of 9/11 even with that bogus information.

Originally Posted by matclone

I get it, Skipster, Democrats are our enemy. How we failed to notice this, I do not understand.

I did not say that, nor did I imply that. You're not being honest here, clone. Maybe you've been applying that Air America radio "logic." You know, that talk radio will get you every time.

I'm merely saying that the best thing to do for us may not be to follow what the people who are trying to kill us are doing. It seems that the democrats are only trying to do the opposite of the president, whether its good or not. THey aren't thinking about the consequences -- they just want to be different.

And so does the majority of Americans. Maybe Al Sadr is Bush's enemy not America's. al Sadr wasn't involved in terrorism against America before Iraq's invasion.

I did not say that, nor did I imply that.

Bullshit. You think we're stupid?

Yes, you used a talk radio technique. How clever.

Notice that you were the one who said that, not me. I even went to the length to say that I DON'T thiknk that democrats are the enemy. You let your own biases get in the way of reading what was actually in the post. The talk radio technique was all yours when you inserted your own bias into my post.

I also noticed how you couldn't process a siple post without foul language. If you have something substantive to say, you wouldn't have to resort to foul language just to have something to post.

Please post honestly next time.