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    When are we going to see movies about crusades and nuns molesting children and homosexual priests?
    Kingdom of Heaven was about the crusades.

    While there were many Christians who promoted slavery as right there were also Christians who were against it and to go further it was largely due to Christian persuasion that slavery ended in Europe I would say mostly because of Christians that slavery ended in Europe. So try not to use such a broad brush.

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    When are we going to see movies about crusades and nuns molesting children and homosexual priests?

    Big, you apparently don't watch movies very often do you? I only say this because there have been far movies made on those subjects you mention than there have on the abolition of slavery among other things that many worked to stop. In fact I can think of only a few others, the most noteworthy Amistad by Steven Spilberg that touches on this subject.
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    The Christian West ended slavery, only the Christian West did this. Never saw the movie in question, there is no doubt however, that Evangelical Methodists fought for years to outlaw slavery, they were the subject of much ridicule (much like the pro-lifers today) yet continued to perservere, they won. The English navy went from keeping the sea lanes open for slavery to shutting the sea lanes down. Interestingly enough one reason the Wesley brothers left the C of E was their belief that the C of E rejection of weekly Communion as too "Roman" was a mistake.

    The Crusades are also too much maligned, they were called in response to a call from the Emperor of the East to the pope for aid. The Byzantines suffered a devastating loss at Manzikert to the Turks (1071), they lost a huge amount of their army and much of the territory the army was raised from. The Crusades saved Bzyantine for another 363 years, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

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    I saw this movie this week and really enjoyed it. I had rented it because I thought it was about Captain Newton who wrote the song. I am fascinated with that story.

    I had never heard about Wilberforce befor. The movie touched on that he was very religious, but it was a minor theme.
    I would recommend it to anyone as a good historical / biographical movie.
    I am not religious and I do not think I would enjoy a movie that was an homage to evangelicals.

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    I thought maybe Big was in a movie. But I guess maybe not.

    Change the subject:

    Slavery existed long before Christianity, so it is nonsense to say Christians invented it.

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    Big and Others.... on Amazing Grace

    I thought maybe Big was in a movie. But I guess maybe not.

    Change the subject:

    Slavery existed long before Christianity, so it is nonsense to say Christians invented it.
    I didn't realize slavery existed in AMERICA before Christians came here. Please explain to me what kind of slavery existed in America before Christianity came to America?

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    We know The Spaniards enslaved the native people of America. But that's not to say they did this because they were Christians.

    Also, it's possible that slavery existed amongs the native people but I don't know.

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    As far as I am concerned CHRISTIANS brought the first load of black slaves to Jamestown in 1619 or somewhere around that date.

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    Slavery isn't exclusive to any religion. Also, the Spaniards (including Columbus) came to the New World and enslaved a lot of people long before the Jamestown settlers.

    See Eduardo Galeano's The Open Veins of Latin America for an account.

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