Re: Jesus Camp - Mike Furches
I was just wondering what your view on this was. If you would rather answer privately then pm me or email me.
Re: Jesus Camp - Mike Furches
Originally Posted by Avallone
Here is a link to the review and information on our web site, it includes an interview with the makers of the film.
I have seen the movie and it is what it is, I don't see it as a film where the makers intended to put down Christianity, but instead, did a documentary on a segment of Christianity who is into what I call, Nationalistic Christianity. Here Christians focus more on politics than they do the Gospel.
There are some rather scary parts to the Documentary, the cut out of George Bush at Jesus Camp, plus the footage with Ted Haggard after the fiasco with him.
I have had a couple of interactions with the directors of the film, and will stand by the belief, that it was not their intent to blast Christianity, in fact, they went overboard to not paint a broad picture but to instead paint a picture of this particular camp. It is also true that the early response among many Pentecostals was overwhelmingly positive, until the public backlash came about.
One last note and this from "a pastor", there is a large portion of Christianity that is very much like is presented in the film. Unfortunately, they don't see themselves in this light, but they are. They plant the flag in their churches, and even then along with the Christian flag, the American flag is in a place of priority over the Christian flag. Ask yourself the question of why, using logic as to the point that their faith is supposed to supersede their country.
Don't get me wrong on the above point, I have nothing against America, but churches that place an American flag in the place of priority over the supposed flag of their faith, are teetering on the Nationalistic approach presented in Jesus Camp. One also only has to look at the political system to see this happening, and therefore the subject matter starts to hit close to home, and thus the attack on the documentary.
I realize I am unique, I am posting today a political piece I wrote last night that touches on this subject as there seems to be political pundits to compete for the religious vote, and in return deliver nothing of what they have promised, the sad thing is that many within the religious community falls for their bait, hook, line and sinker.
The thing about Jesus Camp, is that the subject matter of mixing politics and faith have gone beyond an assault on adult thought, to where it is now being used on Children. Jesus Camp illustrates, that at least for this one Camp, and many within this particular segment of the population, that the militaristic, pro Republican response isn?t just a spiritual allegory, it is a point of reality which is being taught. When Christians talk about openly taking up arms to present and preserve their faith, they are no longer acting on the strength of their faith, but the power of the arms they take up. This is a serious theological point that many Christians will argue because they are caught up more with the power of ?The Republican Party? (a point reference, not necessarily a point of actual reality), then their faith is not in their God, their faith is in the geopolitical systems that give the allusion of supporting faith concepts.
Personally, I thought Jesus Camp was one of the best documentaries of the year, at the demise of many Christians, and those ultra conservative political pundits, I will hold to this view. Is it fun to watch? Nope, but a filmmaker, especially a documentary film maker, does not change the scenes they are given. When children are given the opportunity to praise America over God, and have their picture taken with a cut out of George Bush, or Ted Haggard says the things he says in a church service, one would have to assume that the filmmakers somehow manipulated and caused these things to happen. I don?t believe that to be the case, the used the cards they were given, and made the most confronting movie possible with those cards. You can?t blame them for that.