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    Default Re: Inventor of Gatorade, Dr. Cade, dies at age 80

    Public employee doctor invents useful product. Comprende?

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    Legendary Track & Field coach and inventor, Bill Bowerman had his own sports drink years before Gatorade.

    warm lemonade
    salt
    mashed bananas
    honey and tea.

    I'm sure nobody was happier with the invention Gatorade than the Oregon track team.
    His version apparently tasted awful.

    He also help invented rubberized tracks by mixing melted rubber, sand and tar in a cement mixer.

    And of course, the legendary waffle iron shoes that gave birth to Nike.

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    Default Re: Inventor of Gatorade, Dr. Cade, dies at age 80

    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    I don't believe I mentioned anythign about motivation or the efficacy of public or private dollars here.

    It's an on-going theme of yours--and others. Don't deny it. Don't change the subject because you are confronted with evidence that doesn't support your ideological position.
    I do think that profits are a wonderful motivator, but I did not say they were the motivator here. I merely pointed out that many labs rely on outside funding, which comes from for-profit companies. I do not have intimate knowledge of Dr. Cade's lab, but if his lab was anything like most labs are today, it required funding from private sources to survive.

    Your comment: Yep, I've heard that private dollars have a chemical make-up that is different than that of public dollars--which, when held to the forehead in the lab, motivates those scientists to do more than they would have done otherwise. just proves that you didn't read my post -- you responded t osomething that you made up or thought was written without regard to what was actually written.

    I am not contending that private or public dollars are better or worse than one or the other. I am saying that no University lab is purely one or the other. Without private dollars made from profit-seeking ventures, university research could not exist. I do believe that university is better than private research (since we are held to more strict standards), but we rely on private dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    Public employee doctor invents useful product. Comprende?
    Sorry, I didn't realize that anyone ever said that it wasn't possible for a public employee to do something good. If someone did say that, you sure squashed that argument.

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    Default Re: Inventor of Gatorade, Dr. Cade, dies at age 80

    Everyone's evading my point. I guess I'll just have to wait until the next time someone makes a rhetoric-laden claim that government is ineffectual or that only the private sector can produce something.

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    If you're looking for examples of how government is more efficient than the private sector, you'll be waiting a loooooooong while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    Everyone's evading my point. I guess I'll just have to wait until the next time someone makes a rhetoric-laden claim that government is ineffectual or that only the private sector can produce something.
    Is it rhetoric to claim that the government run DMV office that I use is overstaffed with by incompetent, unskilled and rude government employees?

    Imagine if they relied in customer satisfaction to stay in business. They?d be out of business in a month.

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    Default Re: Inventor of Gatorade, Dr. Cade, dies at age 80

    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    Is it rhetoric to claim that the government run DMV office that I use is overstaffed with by incompetent, unskilled and rude government employees?
    No, that's clearly your opinion, not a rhetorical argument.

    Imagine if they relied in customer satisfaction to stay in business. They’d be out of business in a month.
    I've had good experiences at DMVs in two states in recent years. Bad customer service is never welcome. Nonetheless, the fact you had a bad experience or experiences there does not mean it is representative of all government. Also, remember the purpose of the DMV is to serve the public, not just those who pay for its product. So public to private sector comparisons are usually apples to oranges.

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    I've never had to wait at a DMV (run by the gov) for more than a couple of hours, and I don't think I've ever waited less than 4 hours for the cable company (a private company), I've also never been told to wait for 4 hours at the DMV and then told to come back the next day, which has happened with the cable company at least 3 times in the last year.
    There's no such thing as a pretty good aligator wrestler.

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