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    Default American-born Soviet spy whose family prefered Siberia to Iowa

    He had all-American cover: born in Iowa, college in Manhattan, Army buddies with whom he played baseball.

    George Koval also had a secret. During World War II, he was a top Soviet spy, code named Delmar and trained by Stalin?s ruthless bureau of military intelligence.


    Atomic spies are old stuff. But historians say Dr. Koval, who died in his 90s last year in Moscow and whose name is just coming to light publicly, was probably one of the most important spies of the 20th century.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/12/us...wRTXRv2z63DlqQ

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    Spies were critical for the Russians. They couldn't develop anything, scientifically themselves. Spying was the intellectual equalizer.

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    Wow, that is quite a statement. Who sent the first man in space? Who developed the periodic table? Which country was the leader in human physiology and human performance?

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    Then why was he such an "important" spy?

    Americans spied on the Russians to ascertain military intentions.

    Russians spied on the USA for the intellectual property that Americans were able to make great advances with (due to capitalism).

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    Steve,

    Re-read what you posted here. Soviets also spied on American military intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Wow, that is quite a statement. Who sent the first man in space? Who developed the periodic table? Which country was the leader in human physiology and human performance?
    Why is it you never, EVER, give credit to Russia's musicians?

    Tchaikovsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Stravinsky, Borodin (a brilliant man), Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Rostropovich. The list goes on.....

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    Steve,

    Re-read what you posted here. Soviets also spied on American military intentions.
    Soviet paranoia was legendary.

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    Yeah and also poets were great, like Pushkin and Lermontov, and writers like Tolstoy. But the discussion here is about technological spies.


    Don't forget Soviet Union was on the verge of annihilation during WWII while America was safely tacked away and did its research on Atomic bombs, hardly a great achievement by the way since its main use is to destroy humanity and this planet.

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