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    Default Re: GM could still fall despite gov.bailout

    Both things are true. One, GM is failing, despite the bailout. Two, rightwingers are palpably aroused at using the failure as ammunition against President Obama, despite the fact it hurts Americans.
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    They are not happy it failed. They are making sure voters know that it did fail. Ot is a disservice to America to pretend something worked instead of admitting that it didn't. You can read posts on here where people are trying to say it did work. They either have been lied to or are lying themselves. It is best to look at reality. If that means that your preconcieved notions about Obama were wrong, then be man enough to realize and admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    It is, when people are practically salivating for the the opportunity to use the possible failure of the company to score political points against the President..
    Like I just said, it's not about scoring points. It is showing the reality of what happened and offering a different choice. Why would anyone want to continue with policies that have clearly failed? Why wouldn't someone with different ideas point out the failure of what already happened? Obama can't seem to shut up about Bush's failures. But when his are pointed out people say it's just for political gain. Think about that. It's funny if you don't have an agenda to try and support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    You are a hater when it comes to republican policy, so save it. The fact is it is down, it is losing money in europe and in order for the Gov. to recover its investment anywhere in the near future GM needs to make huge gains. The company is not run well and the UAW is likely to kill it also. Contrary to polular belief if GM fails America does not fail. GM is a company that can go out of business and should be allowed to do so if they can not compete in the market.

    So every time you pointed out that Bush was an idiot or that his policies were bad you were rooting for America to Fail.
    How are the unions going to kill GM when (1) fewer people work in the unions today than in their heyday and (2) the unions have yet to ever break GM?

    No, I never rooted for America to fail, nor was I instructed to. Big difference. Looks like we need to revisit a little something below.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    I would also assume that because Obama was against the Bush policies and pointed out when they failed that he was rooting against America too.
    Of course Obama was rooting for America to fail!

    He's a socialist, communist, statist, fascist, Hitler sympathizer, foreigner, black liberation theologian, Muslim, not a college graduate, associates with terrorists, a former pot smoker, and a libril. Now, I'm sure I missed a few in there, but he has been and is till called all of these things, so, of coursse he hates America and wants it to fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    It is, when people are practically salivating for the the opportunity to use the possible failure of the company to score political points against the President..
    Amen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    They are not happy it failed. They are making sure voters know that it did fail. Ot is a disservice to America to pretend something worked instead of admitting that it didn't. You can read posts on here where people are trying to say it did work. They either have been lied to or are lying themselves. It is best to look at reality. If that means that your preconcieved notions about Obama were wrong, then be man enough to realize and admit it.
    Sure they're happy it's had ONE BAD QUARTER. How do I know this? Because they were dead silent when GM was doing well, would spin the good news into bad news, and get flat out angry when good economic news of GM would hit the airwaves.

    Listen to the monthly economic report when it is a positive report, then listen to your local AM radio-which you are doing anyway-and listen to the screaming tirade that these goofballs go into trying to convince everyone that it is all bad and that the good news is actually bad news.

    Now, if you genuinely wanted the country to succeed, why wouldn't you be reporting that "some good news has come down the turnpike," instead of stressing the bad, which isn't the news story?

    As I posted before, comedian/party boss Rush I Want Big Gubment To Pay For MY Internet Porn Limbaugh has hoped that America would fail, and is coaching millions to do the same everyday. It sure plays out well on here, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    offering a different choice.
    That different choice being...

    1. Cut taxes for the super rich
    2. Cut the safety net for poor people
    3. Sunshine and unicorns

    I'd have more interest in these "different choices" if they actually existed with any semblance of substance, right now they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    That different choice being...

    1. Cut taxes for the super rich
    2. Cut the safety net for poor people
    3. Sunshine and unicorns

    I'd have more interest in these "different choices" if they actually existed with any semblance of substance, right now they don't.
    No one said they wanted to cut taxes just for the super rich. They want to cut taxes for EVERYONE including the super rich. This basically boils down to looking at things yourself instead of how other people want you to look at it.

    That Wasserman chick was interviewed the other day and asked how Ryan's budget would affect anyone over the age of 55. She refused to answer because it doesn't affect them. Listen to the spin, though, and you would think he hates the elderly. His plan is for those of us under 55. It is a way to maintain SS and medicare instead of foolishly letting it go bankrupt. But unless you research it yourself, you would never know that.

    As far as the safety net for poor people go, please explain what you mean. If you mean cutting out handouts for able-bodied people, then I agree with those cuts. If you have read something where Romney or Ryan have actually said that they want to punish people who are poor because of a disability of some sort, then show me that. Fact is, America has the richest "poor'"people in the entire world. If you are poor in Uganda, you starve. If you're poor in America, you get fat and blame others for not having a better grocery store in poor neighborhoods.

    If you want to vote for Obama that's fine. But you will get what you've already got. It's a shame for the entire country that democrats didn't have a primary. I'm open to listen. I'm not open to giving a failure four more years.

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