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    Who ever said that the opposition was exaggerating about Obama going to raise taxes and spend like crazy must be looking into the mirror.

    To steal a line from a defunct football coach..."He is who we thought he was!". A car salesman, tax and spender to solve all social problems. Not a dime was spent to actually repair our economy. Not a dime that was spent directly helps the average citizen. Instead it was set up to build a bunch of nipples for the masses to suck on.

    I will give it to them however, the administration knows that the popularity is going dwindle quickly so they are cashing in every goal now while they are still in favor. Especially since the Congress only has about 21 more months. But for Obama to tell us that the biggest reason for job loss is because of our medical costs really shows me he thinks we are stupid.

    Sorry I had to say this now. I had believed he would turn into a moderate, and boy I was wrong!

    We have about 2 years (new congress) before we can start fixing and hopefully undoing a lot of the damage created by the government. But the sad thing is that the debt can not be undone. They will spend everything they can while they have congress in control. So with that, my prediction is now that the market does not come back until 2012. Thats when we have sensible moderates taking over the congress. The corrupt GOP and Liberal representatives need to be exposed. Anyhow, now I am sounding outright bitter. I am just wishing for hope and change that actually helps us and not hurts.

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    Yes, you are sounding bitter.

    Cheer up, either the Democrats muck it up so badly your party will be back in office in 2 years or if they're not, it's because the Democrats are actually helping the economy.

    Either way - you can't lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leglace View Post
    Who ever said that the opposition was exaggerating about Obama going to raise taxes and spend like crazy must be looking into the mirror.
    Did I miss something? have taxes gone up?
    There's no such thing as a pretty good aligator wrestler.

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    Getting crushed here in NJ - 20% on property taxes and slew of new taxes - water, freakin water from the tap. We already pay a tax on water that goes down the drain into the sewer, now he hits on the front side. New liquor and wine taxes. All state licensing fees doubled. Car registration fees up 25%. Property tax deduction in the state income tax - poof, gone, now you pay tax to have a tax. They're whacking us from all sides and you don't even have to bend over.

    And state government keeps getting bigger and biger and bigger.

    600 lawyers on the attorney general's staff - What the heck can you do with 600 attys, especially when the fish all the hard stuff to outside counsel at outrageous, unnegotiated fees and bottomless billing sheets ?

    The kind old gov is allowing the towns to defer their pension fund obligations for the year to keep property taxes from going higher, but to do so, the town must pay an 8.5% fee to the state until the value is repaid.

    I have no clue as to how this rose to be CEO of Goldman Sachs. He has no sense of financial matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    Getting crushed here in NJ - 20% on property taxes and slew of new taxes - water, freakin water from the tap. We already pay a tax on water that goes down the drain into the sewer, now he hits on the front side. New liquor and wine taxes. All state licensing fees doubled. Car registration fees up 25%. Property tax deduction in the state income tax - poof, gone, now you pay tax to have a tax. They're whacking us from all sides and you don't even have to bend over.
    Obama raised your property/water/liquor/etc taxes?
    There's no such thing as a pretty good aligator wrestler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    Obama raised your property/water/liquor/etc taxes?
    Yes taxes have gone up. Read the incremental tax details in the "approved" bill that was just passed and how the debt will be paid for the next 8 years or so.

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