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    Let's see, we currently have nationalized education, transportation, law enforcement, national defense, fire fighting, recreation, etc. all of which have been around for decades, but if someone suggests adding healthcare to that list all of a sudden we're turning into a socialist society?

    Not quite. Fire fighting and law enforcement is localized. Some fire depts are volunteer because many jurisdictions have not done a good job budgeting. Big surprise there...

    Transportation? Do you mean Amtrak. Yeah real success story...

    Education gets some federal funding, but they are an example of utter failure no matter how much money you give them.

    Recreation? As in national parks? OK, you got me there.

    National defense. Well, it wouldn't be national defense without national control I guess.

    Department of motor vehicles has always been another example of failure. The states would run them, and they never ran smoothly. Once states starting privatizing motor vehicles, they were night and day more efficient. NJ is a great example. It was a great example of how the states do not run services well.
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    As far as promoting a socialist agenda, the three biggest events in the last 30 years in my mind are:

    1. Expansion of Medicare to include perscrition drugs
    2. No Child Left Behind act
    3. Bailout / Nationalization of the banking system

    All done under Bush. Even if Obama continues on the same policies, he is hardly sneaking a socialist agenda in while no one is looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    The economy is blurring the view right now. Wait till it clears and you find yourself living in a socialist system. Lots of back door moves toward socialism are transpiring. Gonna look very European real soon.
    While the European system might not be ideal (or even better than our current one), it is not a very scary situation to say we will start to look European. By many measures, their systems have more success than ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leglace View Post
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    Transportation? Do you mean Amtrak. Yeah real success story...
    As far as transportation, they are billions yearly poured into the Federal highway system. Many feel that if a reasonable amount was redirected toward rail transport, Amtrak would be more viable.

    I would love to see the US (especially the Northeast, where it makes the most sense) have better rail transport.

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    I am actually surprised that Obama approval rating is not higher.
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    Yeah, his ratings go up everytime he tells his "yes we can" speach.

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    I'm sorry, socialized is probably a better word than universal for what I ment.
    Quote Originally Posted by leglace View Post
    Not quite. Fire fighting and law enforcement is localized. Some fire depts are volunteer because many jurisdictions have not done a good job budgeting. Big surprise there... even in local jurisdictions people with more money pay more towards police and fire departments than people with less money, but everyone (theoretically) recieves the same benefit, with sounds pretty socialized to me.

    Transportation? Do you mean Amtrak. Yeah real success story... I ment the US highway system, which is almost entirely funded by tax money.

    Education gets some federal funding, but they are an example of utter failure no matter how much money you give them. Again, socialized is probably a better term than universal, everyone in a community pays different amounts towards the schools budget, but gets the same use of the resource.

    Recreation? As in national parks? OK, you got me there.

    National defense. Well, it wouldn't be national defense without national control I guess. Again, everyone pays different amounts but get's the same benefit, which as I understand is how socialism works
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