Originally Posted by UGLY

Quick someone post a Sean Hannity video about Obama because he's not biased and only gives complete facts just like miss maddow.

I recently watched maddow on the bill Maher show and she tried to hide the fact that she's a liberal hack. She also tried to say that she reports the news and doesn't give her opinion. Clearly she has never seen her own show.

Of course she's biased, but somehow we've all fallen for this falsehood that bias automatically means not factual. We're all biased, but we can present facts to support our bias. The two ARE NOT mutually exclusive.

Now, in regard to the vidyo that I posted above, what did you find false regarding what she said? You are free to pernt out what is in error, but I suspect that you'll be working at it a while!

Now, dismante her vidyo for us, ok?

Originally Posted by UGLY

The fact that spending has increased is a sign that he has not reigned in government, the fact that he got his health care bill passed which is clearly a large expansion of government and tax. The recent executive order in which he dictates that in National Defense Preparedness the government can seize your assets including land is clearly and expansion. The fact that the government has taken over the student loan program also expansion. Expansion of powers to the EPA. Creating Tsars. The NDAA was a broad sweeping expansion of the governments ability to stifle your rights as a citizen.

So I agree with you that you can present facts and still be biased, but when you mislead the viewer as a supposed news anchor by blatantly leaving out facts I think its wrong. If you are doing an opinion show that's one thing but dont present yourself as a journalist if you are doing opinion.

Originally Posted by UGLY

The fact that spending has increased is a sign that he has not reigned in government, the fact that he got his health care bill passed which is clearly a large expansion of government and tax. The recent executive order in which he dictates that in National Defense Preparedness the government can seize your assets including land is clearly and expansion. The fact that the government has taken over the student loan program also expansion. Expansion of powers to the EPA. Creating Tsars. The NDAA was a broad sweeping expansion of the governments ability to stifle your rights as a citizen.

So I agree with you that you can present facts and still be biased, but when you mislead the viewer as a supposed news anchor by blatantly leaving out facts I think its wrong. If you are doing an opinion show that's one thing but dont present yourself as a journalist if you are doing opinion.

First off, I asked you to disprove what she said in the vidyo (much of it contradicts what you just wrote now). Why did you avoid that, if she is so "incorrect" and "biased?"

Now, onto the fun. I don't now how to do the fancy quotes and give my commentary below, so I'll just do it in my own way. Your claims are in bold. Enjoy!

1. The fact that spending has increased is a sign that he has not reigned in government

Which President hasn't increased spending? You are aware that America has ALWAYS operated in the red, correct? However, and contrary to what AM radio and Wiretap News likes to feed us, spending under Obama has not increased greatly at all. Figures are from the CBO, see his citation below. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OV1TPHZH0e...ng+chart+2.jpg
The myth of Obama's spending binge - The Plum Line - The Washington Post

2. the fact that he got his health care bill passed which is clearly a large expansion of government and tax

As opposed to the Department of Homeland Security, Prescription Drug benefit, suspension of Habeus Corpus, illegal wiretapping, and secret prisons? Yeah, that sounds lie TINY gubment to me!

Which taxes have increased, by the way? Taxes Reach Lowest Levels in 50 Years

3. The recent executive order in which he dictates that in National Defense Preparedness the government can seize your assets including land is clearly and expansion.

Now, I'm not the sharpest blade in the drawer, but how did this happen without my ever knowing about it?! I find it strange that AM radio and Wiretap News never spoke of this. Where in this order do you see where they can "seize your assets" without due process? Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness | The White House

Speaking of Executive Orders. 1,461 Days of The Obama Administration: What Presidents have used Executive Orders

4. The fact that the government has taken over the student loan program also expansion.

As opposed to when the Fedril gubment WASN'T issuing Fedrul student loans!? YOWZA! FinAid | FinAid for Educators and FAAs | History of Student Financial Aid

5. Expansion of powers to the EPA.

WHICH powers do you speak of, or are you just repeating what AM radio has told you to say? Keep in mind: you said EXPANSION. What expansion?

6. Creating Tsars.

First off, Czars. Obama CREATED them!? A Brief History of White House Czars - TIME

7. The NDAA was a broad sweeping expansion of the governments ability to stifle your rights as a citizen.

You no longer call for drastic national security measures during a time of war!? Why did you change your mind in January of 2009?

No, seriously: WHICH expansion, and WHICH rights?

Looks like you'll be busy for a while...

Originally Posted by UGLY

I forgot to mention that under this administration federal employees have increased by 170,000 and the number of regulations have incresed by 100 in the first two years alone. Silly me for forgetting more facts.

INCREASED regulations? False. W.H.: Fewer regs than under Bush - Darius Dixon - POLITICO.com

Increasing Fedrul employees? How did "president" George C- Bush implement his Department of Homeland Security without a MASSIVE increase in Fedril employees? How did "president" George C- Bush implement his Prescription Drug bill without more Fedrul employees?

Note how Obama has fewer Fedril employees than Ronnie Ketchup IS A Vegetable! Reagan. Total Government Employment Since 1962

Look at THIS change in tune! Certainly, some of your important "initiatives" would have curtailed freedom, increased spending, increased regulations, and, in short, done everything that you've "hated" since January of 2009.

Why the change in tune, Ugly?

http://www.thewrestlingtalk.com/foru...-election.html

More gubment expansion and squashing of free speech rights
http://www.thewrestlingtalk.com/foru...y-council.html