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  1. #28

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    Ban, read carefully. I never said they changed how unemployment was calculated. In fact, if you look back, I said that I knew they were calculating it the same. The problem is you didn't read that. You went straight into defend Obama mode. Here is why the way it is calculated matters more now than it did before. Now, there are more and more people running out of unemployment benefits than ever before which means more and more people are no longer being counted. It has happened forever, but not at this huge of a rate. Usually, the unemployment rate counted those who were receiving benefits with SOME falling off. Now, the recovery is DEPENDING on people falling off of the government dole.

    Now to your gasoline bet. You have bet me $1000 that it was higher under Bush. Well, here is some data that seems to disagree. And I'm not betting you anything. You won't pay. You will weasel your way out somehow by finding a gas station that charged more for a day and claim you're right. I'm not that childish. Facts are facts and this article will give them to you.

    Gasoline up 100% under Obama - Washington Times

    Now, let me try to give a simple analogy of your thinking and tell me if it makes any sense at all. So, here it goes:

    Liberals like yourself consider Bush as the worst president in history or at least the last 50 years. So why do you use him as the benchmark for Obama's success? That makes no sense. If all you are is better than the worst, that doesn't make you good. Here is another breakdown.

    Let's say 10 men work in a widget factory. 8 of those men make 1000 widgets per day. One guy only makes 200 per day and the last guy makes 250 widgets per day. Do you praise the guy who makes 250 because he's better than the guy who only makes 200? Or do you praise those who make 1000 and lump the other two into the same category of bad employees? That is what you and every other liberal is doing. You are praising the 250 widget guy instead of demanding that he become as good as the 1000 widget guys.

    Can you understand that? It's almost like you all go to a liberal boot camp and learn to speak Obama. You all sound the same and our country is going to continue to fail as long as you guys keep praising the 250 widgets.
    Last edited by quinn14; 05-05-2012 at 12:32 AM.

  2. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    People Not In Labor Force Soar By 522,000, Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest Since 1981 | ZeroHedge

    I don't know how you can spin this. Looks bad, just like the deficit increase. Under Obama's watch, not Shrub. Unbelievably overmatched and foolish President.
    I actually posted that exact article on page 2. Ban either didn't read it, doesn't care or can't comprehend. He is more concerned with a political party than our country. It's unbelievable.

  3. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    I dont hear anyone here trying to defend bush in, especially his second term. You need to focus on what this president has done. He has surpassed Bush's debt increase in just 3.5 years. It took Bush 8 years to mess things up good. We all know that Obama inherited a mess but he and the democrats have had four years to make some positive change and they didn't. So what we have is a president who cant get anything worth while done, and instead of trying to take responsibility for it he and his supporters only want to blame the previous admin. IT doesn't fly. Not only has Obama done next to nothing he has made matters worse and accepts no blame for his part. He has like quinn said done many things the same as bush even though he condemned Bush for doing so. He has no leg to stand on and if he wins a second term I will think that the electoral college and the population are as ignorant this time around as I did when they gave Bush a second term. Not only that but under his watch we have seen many intrusions into personal privacy, I just think that Obama is showing his true colors, we all knew this is who he was and is.
    1. Bush takes a surplus and gives us trillions in debt. Obama adds to that existing debt. As I said before, I'm guessing that, as a percentage, Bush has increased the debt more than what Obama has.

    2. You're saying that Obama has "done nothing" and "made matters worse." Maybe you want in on my bet. I'll bet you $1,000 that the overall economy is better today than it was in January of 2009. You in for a grand? Let's put your claims to the test, shall we?

    3. What are the new intrusions into personal privacy that you speak of? Please specify. Are they worse than the following: Suspension of Habeus Corpus? Secret prisons and prison abuse? Executive privilege? Wiretapping and seeeing to it that the phone companies not be prosecuted for wiretapping citizens? Dept. of Homeland Security?
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  4. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    People Not In Labor Force Soar By 522,000, Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest Since 1981 | ZeroHedge

    I don't know how you can spin this. Looks bad, just like the deficit increase. Under Obama's watch, not Shrub. Unbelievably overmatched and foolish President.
    All well and good, but it also shouldn't be used to caluculate unemployment, just as it hasn't been since 1940. AM radio DOES calculate this.

    We can also thank outsourcing for this as well.
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  5. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    He is more concerned with a political party than our country. It's unbelievable.
    That must be why you're voting for Romney, eh, even though he wasn't your first choice, and doesn't even come close to matching your views, right?

    Looks like someone needs to point a finger at someone in the mirror. LOL!!
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  6. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Ban, read carefully. I never said they changed how unemployment was calculated. In fact, if you look back, I said that I knew they were calculating it the same. The problem is you didn't read that. You went straight into defend Obama mode. Here is why the way it is calculated matters more now than it did before. Now, there are more and more people running out of unemployment benefits than ever before which means more and more people are no longer being counted. It has happened forever, but not at this huge of a rate. Usually, the unemployment rate counted those who were receiving benefits with SOME falling off. Now, the recovery is DEPENDING on people falling off of the government dole.

    Now to your gasoline bet. You have bet me $1000 that it was higher under Bush. Well, here is some data that seems to disagree. And I'm not betting you anything. You won't pay. You will weasel your way out somehow by finding a gas station that charged more for a day and claim you're right. I'm not that childish. Facts are facts and this article will give them to you.

    Gasoline up 100% under Obama - Washington Times

    Now, let me try to give a simple analogy of your thinking and tell me if it makes any sense at all. So, here it goes:

    Liberals like yourself consider Bush as the worst president in history or at least the last 50 years. So why do you use him as the benchmark for Obama's success? That makes no sense. If all you are is better than the worst, that doesn't make you good. Here is another breakdown.

    Let's say 10 men work in a widget factory. 8 of those men make 1000 widgets per day. One guy only makes 200 per day and the last guy makes 250 widgets per day. Do you praise the guy who makes 250 because he's better than the guy who only makes 200? Or do you praise those who make 1000 and lump the other two into the same category of bad employees? That is what you and every other liberal is doing. You are praising the 250 widget guy instead of demanding that he become as good as the 1000 widget guys.

    Can you understand that? It's almost like you all go to a liberal boot camp and learn to speak Obama. You all sound the same and our country is going to continue to fail as long as you guys keep praising the 250 widgets.
    Regarding your first sentence, did you NOT ssay this in post #18? "And you keep saying that unemployment has dropped and that is false. They are cooking the books and everyone who can simply add can see that." Sounds like you're saying that they ARE using their own formula to calculate unemployment. I know that Sean McVeigh Hannity says this.

    Care to bet me $1,000 on yoiur claim that unemployment is not down since January of 2009? No need to "weasel out" for me; I got them there facts on my side.

    Now, for my gas bet. I said that gas prices where higher, in real dollars, during the Bush "presidency" than they are right now. Obama has yet to have the national average go over $4/gallon. Bush had the national average for a time well over $4/gallon.

    You in for that $1,000 bet? No need for me to "weasel out" again, as I got them "stupid facts" (as Ronnie Ketchup IS A Vegetable Reagan said). You in for a grand?
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  7. #34

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    In fact, I have probably a dozen or more quotes written down from comedian/party boss Rush I Want Government To Pay For MY Online Porn Thrills Limbaugh from the days that gas prices went through the rook under Bush. Comedian/party boss Rush I Want Government To Pay For MY Online Porn Thrills Limbaugh would always write off the high prices by saying, "gas is cheap. When you consider the rilling, refinement, transportation, and all esle that goes into producing a gallon of refined gas, it's cheap."

    I'm disappointed that comedian/party boss Rush I Want Government To Pay For MY Online Porn Thrills Limbaugh no longer holds this view.
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  8. #35

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    Ban, you are hilarious. Obama inherited gas at $1.87 a gallon and has since doubled it. If it was over $4 under Bush at one time, then guess what? He was able to bring down to under $2. Why can't Obama do that? The answer is because he wants prices high so he can force people to buy those electric cars. You defend him when there is no defense, it is truly funny. And yes I did say that unemployment rates dropping is actually false. That's because it is and you know it. Try subtracting 115,000 from 522,000 and see if you get a positive or negative number. If it's negative, then you're right, unemployment has dropped.

    Oh, and I love the nicknames you give people. Not only are they very funny, but they are also very mature, too. I mean, don't all adults make up 10yr old type nicknames for people? I suppose we were supposed to read on further after those truly brilliant nicknames, but I just couldn't. Keep on accepting failure and that's what we will get.

  9. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Ban, you are hilarious. Obama inherited gas at $1.87 a gallon and has since doubled it. If it was over $4 under Bush at one time, then guess what? He was able to bring down to under $2. Why can't Obama do that? The answer is because he wants prices high so he can force people to buy those electric cars. You defend him when there is no defense, it is truly funny. And yes I did say that unemployment rates dropping is actually false. That's because it is and you know it. Try subtracting 115,000 from 522,000 and see if you get a positive or negative number. If it's negative, then you're right, unemployment has dropped.

    Oh, and I love the nicknames you give people. Not only are they very funny, but they are also very mature, too. I mean, don't all adults make up 10yr old type nicknames for people? I suppose we were supposed to read on further after those truly brilliant nicknames, but I just couldn't. Keep on accepting failure and that's what we will get.
    All well and good, but the fact is is that gas prices were higher under Bush than they have been for Obama. If you disagree, then take me up on my bet. You in?

    You also say that the unemployment rate is NOT dropping, when the measure that is used to determine the unemployment rate shows that it IS dropping and HAS been dropping since January of 2009. So, do you want to bet me $1,000 that the unemployment rate, based on how it is measured, which is all that we have to go by, is NOT dropping since January 2009? You in?

    You know, if I wasn't mistaken, I almost detect that you WANT the country and the economy to do poorly right now. I'm a bit perplexed at how there are positive signs out there, yet you continue to just talk doom and gloom. Why don't you accentuate some of the positives? You don't REALLY want America to fail now, do you?

    Anyway, give me a firm yes or no on the bets, I'll provide my data, and you can pay me through paypal. Dad always told me to never make a bet that you won't win. I'm still batting 1.000 on that one!
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