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    Default Re: Check out the front page of NY Times website today

    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    I think that is one area we have forgotten about, respect for money. Learning how to use money and on what and how to do it within you financial means plays a big part in how you are persuaded to make purchases.
    I agree. But how do we teach that respect for money? This is a prime example of why I think we should recognize the effects of advertising on culture and not pretend they don't exist. Most of us are surrounded day in and day out with advertising, and it teaches us one thing: buy, buy, buy. Hence, all time high levels of personal debt. Conversely, we are not normally taught respect for money unless it comes from our parents (and many parents have never learned that lesson). Some schools, churches, and community agencies, I'm sure, teach fiscal responsibility to some extent but the weight of the pressure is in the other direction.

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    Back in my younger days, when I was feeling my oats, I learned to never race against an El Camino on the streets.

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    I was going to post this before, when the topic of repetition for the purpose of selling a product (or point of view) came up. It doesn't always work as the history of the forum clearly demonstrates. Just review Big's posts for a selected time frame (Ie- a month). He has pounded a point of view in his thread titles* consistently and persistently.

    Yet he's not getting buyers!!

    *Stress THREAD TITLES, not the body of the posts themselves, since they frequently have little logical relationship to the thread titles.

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    Steve, I am not an authority like TV, newspapers, and internet providers. For all we know, I could be saying something right but people will not listen because I am not an authority.

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    That is what I've been saying all along. We know that we can't declare that people are absolute pawns to suggestion because we have seen instances in which it is not true. I have been called a liar and worse for saying that, but you have said it here better than I have.

    Still, I think that to suggest that people can't ignore suggestion is to also say that they can't do anything without suggestion, if suggestion were to be such an overwhelming force. I'm not sure that would prove to be true.

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    Default Re: Check out the front page of NY Times website today

    I recently heard a radio commercial where a personal financial specialist was saying something like: "Savers are losers. Make an appointment with me so that we can figure out a way to invest your money better".

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    I am sure many people will register the thought that "Savers are losers" since the guy was an authority.

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    Only the people who don't check it out first. Anyone who konws anything abotu money or hasn't been in a cave for the last 10 years knows that savings is the most important part of wealth accumulation.

    A fool and his money are soon parted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Steve, I am not an authority like TV, newspapers, and internet providers. For all we know, I could be saying something right but people will not listen because I am not an authority.
    Nonsense, Big.

    You are much more an "authority" on capitalism/communism than any advertising exec is on (for example) the best toothpaste. And, despite that, you may or may not be, any more correct than non-authorities.

    What advertising employs are "pseudo" authorities, not real ones. It's up to the buyer to know that and decide if it makes any difference.

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