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    I finished watching a ton of conspiricy video on 9/11 and the connection with the Bilderberg group. I am very open to the idea that the towers were imploded by others, but I am on the fence with rhe whole Bilderberg Group theories. I am a bit on the fence, and nervous at the same time.

    What is the thoughts on this from the TWT group?
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    9/11 conspiracy? Really? Are other TWT posters truthers?

    I think Noam Chomsky addresses this effectively - YouTube - ‪Chomsky dispels 9/11 conspiracies with sheer logic‬‏

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    9/11 conspiracy? Really? Are other TWT posters truthers?

    I think Noam Chomsky addresses this effectively - YouTube - ‪Chomsky dispels 9/11 conspiracies with sheer logic‬‏
    Noam Chomsky is a just NWO promoter.

    He downplays the CFR & Trilateral Commission & never mentions the FED in any of his treatises.

    He praises on guys like Bertrand Russell who helped instigate the NWO.

    Chomsky has been a big Rockefeller supporter & the also in the UN. Feb 04 he an Award from the UN Correspondents Club. The list goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Noam Chomsky is a just NWO promoter.

    He downplays the CFR & Trilateral Commission & never mentions the FED in any of his treatises.

    He praises on guys like Bertrand Russell who helped instigate the NWO.

    Chomsky has been a big Rockefeller supporter & the also in the UN. Feb 04 he an Award from the UN Correspondents Club. The list goes on.
    So you're dismissing the analysis of Noam Chomsky outright because he's too aligned with the New World Order, in other words not anti-establishment enough? It's convenient how you don't respond to his actual points and instead go after his credibility. All of those examples are really reaching for straws, if that's the standard for not being credible enough to pay attention to despite being the most cited intellectual ever then it would be a cinch to discredit any prolific writer/intellectual that you come up with. Accepting an award from the UN Correspondents Club means we shouldn't listen to his points?! And it's false that he never mentions the FED. As the legendary lyricist Ras Kass once put it "your favorite rapper is a Ras Kass fan" which no doubt applies to whichever 100% anti-establishment conspiracy theorist has influenced your thinking - I'm sure the vast majority of them have great esteem for Chomsky's work.

    I think it's a serious disservice to the pressing issues that Chomsky has done so much to bring attention to such as the Israeli occupation, American foreign policy in Latin America, etc by instead focusing on conspiracy theories such as NWO that rely on conjecture more than evidence. You could be spending your time and energy dealing with something concrete that we can actively affect and has been thoroughly documented, instead you dismiss the words of a man that has done far more bringing awareness to atrocities all over the world than you or any other conspiracy theorist. KR, you're a good guy but I just don't get it. I subscribe to the same question everything philosophy as you, but it's apparently blinding you to actually making a difference if you think it makes sense to dismiss Noam Chomsky. Anyway, that's my two cents, sorry if it comes off as overly-personal, I still respect you.
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    The towers were knocked down because two commercial airplanes filled with fuel and being flown by nuts crashed into them. I am not a truther or birther and I think Oswald shot Kennedy. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    The towers were knocked down because two commercial airplanes filled with fuel and being flown by nuts crashed into them. I am not a truther or birther and I think Oswald shot Kennedy. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. IMO.
    It is not physically possible for Jet Fuel to reach temperatures high enough to not only melt the support beams BUT it is impossible as well for that same jet fuel to melt metal at the bottom of the buildings, which was discovered as well.

    In addition, there was also UN-exploded THERMOMITE discovered on site. Plus you have the fact that all 3 buildings went into FREE fall which is NOT possible unless there had demolitions assistance. Many people who came of of the buildings said that they heard LOUD explosions & were knocked around BEFORE the building s fell. Also the buildings were DESIGNED to withstand airplanes flying into them.

    9/11 was a FALSE FLAG OP.

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    Has anyone watched how much live footage there was on people saying that there were explosions on the 10th and 13th floor well before the building collapsed. If it was due to a pancake theory, how does a fire travel almost 100 stories downward without smoke from the center of the building and start exploding elevators etc... Fireman are experts on the effects of a fire in relation to mechanical equip, and appliances. They can't figure it out. The other thing is that they have footage of small explsions busting out the side of the bldg before the collapses. Its hard to explain them.

    Then you have the pancake theory. If the steel columns got so hot that it separated from the floors, why didnct we see any steel sticking up? This is a curtain wall building frame. And wouldn't we have seen a huge pile of concrete piled up on one another at the bottom as it fell freefall. And why did they ship off the steel immediately to overseas before any investigation was made? Isn't that suspicious.

    Then you have the pentagon that has more cameras than any building you can imagine. There are photos of the positioning of all the cameras in place and the best they have is one video with frames removed from it? How did the media not jump all over that?

    Well the why for everything is the only hard part. Thats why I question the Bilderberg part.

    Before somebody calls me a sudden building expert because I watched some videos, please note that I am an architect and work a lot with concrete and steel designs. I am no expert. But I am not a dummy when it come to "Why buildings stand up" and "why buildings fall down", both of which were books required for my studies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leglace View Post
    Has anyone watched how much live footage there was on people saying that there were explosions on the 10th and 13th floor well before the building collapsed. If it was due to a pancake theory, how does a fire travel almost 100 stories downward without smoke from the center of the building and start exploding elevators etc... Fireman are experts on the effects of a fire in relation to mechanical equip, and appliances. They can't figure it out. The other thing is that they have footage of small explsions busting out the side of the bldg before the collapses. Its hard to explain them.

    Then you have the pancake theory. If the steel columns got so hot that it separated from the floors, why didnct we see any steel sticking up? This is a curtain wall building frame. And wouldn't we have seen a huge pile of concrete piled up on one another at the bottom as it fell freefall. And why did they ship off the steel immediately to overseas before any investigation was made? Isn't that suspicious.

    Then you have the pentagon that has more cameras than any building you can imagine. There are photos of the positioning of all the cameras in place and the best they have is one video with frames removed from it? How did the media not jump all over that?

    Well the why for everything is the only hard part. Thats why I question the Bilderberg part.

    Before somebody calls me a sudden building expert because I watched some videos, please note that I am an architect and work a lot with concrete and steel designs. I am no expert. But I am not a dummy when it come to "Why buildings stand up" and "why buildings fall down", both of which were books required for my studies.
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    Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
    Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen Pp 7-31

    We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC).

    The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 ?C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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    So, based on your theories, do you think Bush had something to do with it. Or do you think terrorists also planted something inside the buildings and blew them up or was it another American group of some sort working with terrorists? Like I said, I don't buy any of it, but I am interested in people's theories. I love watching the conspiracy theory stuff on tv, especially about the Kennedy assassination. So, if you would, let me/us know what you think really happened based off what you know as an architect and what you've watched.

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