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    bwh, if that was meant for me, then you are right. I haven't researched any of it. I will read your links and thanks for providing them.

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    That's about the most indirect response possible. All of those examples are thoroughly documented and widely accepted, as opposed to the conjecture and selective "evidence" of conspiracy theory. 1) Chomsky does not support Rockefeller, I have no idea how you got that idea in your head.

    2) The vast majority of scientists and experts have dismissed all the various 9/11 theories, just because a few truthers got a big book deal and hundreds of the millions of scientists are truthers doesn't mean much. 3) It's not you all's skepticism that bothers me, it's the unfounded inference and implications that you're deriving from that skepticism. 9/11 is an extremely complex and difficult to understand event with nothing remotely approaching consensus, like all major disasters, and the 4) bottom line is that there is no evidence implicating government involvement. The fact that they benefited from it after the fact is not evidence of involvement, it's the case for every world power who ratcheted up the anti-terror rhetoric to achieve their own ends.

    We can't all save the world, but for you guys to focus on thin stuff like this when there are well-documented atrocities going on all over the world just leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Discussing it is fine, I'm sure many of you have done more good than I have, I suppose I'm specifically referring to 5) KR dismissing Chomsky's work outright when he's exhaustively addressed concrete issues while KR cites President Bush deceiving the country on Iraq WMD's as implied support for NWO and Bush being responsible for 9/11, that's not specific or helpful, it's extremist until you can present actual evidence.
    1) Chomsky is a complete CFR apologist which is the group Rockefeller started.
    2) Classic non-specific reference; a broad generality that is false.
    3) I have handed you but a few small facts. I can see that you didn't bother to read or watch a single one.
    4) There is a lot of evidence you are just not looking as your viewpoint predisposes you to looking.
    5) Like most of the folks who work for or with the CFR they are whores
    6) All I can say is watch what happens

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    Quinn, it was meant for everyone but the "something tells me you haven't bothered" was definitely meant for those pushing the conspiracy theories as fact without seemingly looking into the counter-arguments nearly as much.

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    1) Chomsky is a complete CFR apologist which is the group Rockefeller started.

    That's just not true, I have read and heard him viciously criticizing the CFR multiple times. Since you're the one making the claim care to provide a few instances that support this bizarre claim?

    2) Classic non-specific reference; a broad generality that is false.

    And how does your opposing opinion not qualify as a "non-specific reference" or a "broad generality" since you haven't provided any indication that the majority of scientists support your 9/11 theories. The only peer-reviewed research into the collapse rejects the conspiracy theory, I think that's pretty telling. Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - The Paper Feel free to reject whatever doesn't conveniently fit your conspiratorial ideology but you're relying on conjecture and inference until you can provide something remotely as credible (scientists take peer-reviewed research seriously, random scientists writing a book or a random guy making a video online is not in the same ballpark).

    3) I have handed you but a few small facts. I can see that you didn't bother to read or watch a single one.

    Those "few small facts" are completely irrelevant to the points I've made regarding the 9/11 conspiracy or Chomsky's credibility. You don't need to try to convince me that the US government is deceptive and corrupt, but that's not evidence to support your point on this specific issue.

    4) There is a lot of evidence you are just not looking as your viewpoint predisposes you to looking.

    Explain to me how you're any different than this? At least my evidence has been peer-reviewed and since you're the one claiming a conspiracy the onus is primarily on you to provide strong evidence that hasn't been effectively countered. What exactly do you think my viewpoint is anyway? Do you realize that there is an enormous gray area between "accepting the red pill" of everything the government tells you and buying into conspiracy theories without sufficient evidence? I'm extremely critical of the US Gov't, but this is conjecture.

    5) Like most of the folks who work for or with the CFR they are whores

    Chomsky does not work for or with the CFR, he's the premier anti-establishment writer in the world. That's why he's officially considered an American political dissident and has effectively been boycotted by all of American mainstream media.

    6) All I can say is watch what happens

    What are you referring to?

    Please don't link a bunch of irrelevant red herrings this time, it doesn't make any sense. Bush lying about the WMD's has zero connection with proving a government conspiracy behind 9/11.

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    BWH-
    The U.S. finally admitted to FREEFALL in building 7 when a high school physics teacher called them on it. As to chomsky, russell and the old bag of dirt who wrote THE CREATURE FROM HYDE ISLAND-I, too, used to fawn over their every word , now not so much.
    KR-I really think the govt. will build a KILL switch for the net and blame Julian for it-Wikileaks founder.
    At least for a time -we lived in an age if you looked hard enough you could find some answers-now it is back to PRAVDA every day.
    UGLY-some names keep popping up in history who are shadow agents-Licio Gelli,Col. Edward house-Gelli is one of my favorite characters. Follow who they work for and you'll find a lot of answers.
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    I don't fawn over anyone's every word but neither of you have specifically addressed Chomsky's points, instead you just discredit him in vague, unsupported ways (mainly talking to KR here). Chomsky, Russell and Griffin are drastically different people the latter two of whom I definitely do not remotely align with ideologically. As for Chomsky, I disagree with him all the time, but at least take his opinion very seriously since he does an excellent job describing complex events in a concise manner with far more context than other intellectuals and with exhaustive sourcing. I'm proud of you both for advancing beyond Chomsky, I'm obviously not as enlightened, care to share some relevant evidence now with the rest of us unenlightened folk? You're going to have to cite the US gov't admitting to freefall. What is inaccurate about these two detailed counter-arguments? Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Free Fall and http://www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf

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    NIST, the company paid by the government to conduct the research, did admit to freefall on their November 2008 final report for building 7 only. Nobody seems to be able to measure the time of the towers accurately because of all the smoke.
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    The PHYSICS teacher is named David Chandler who said ''for about 2 1/2 seconds ..the acceleration of the building is indistinguishable from free-fall.''
    After seeing his evidence NIST re-wrote their findings.
    Check out David Ray Griffin's book THE MYSTERIOUS COLLAPSE OF WORLD TRADE CENTER 7

    The old bag of dirt I was refering to was EUSTACE MULLINS -who died last year and was the last living protoge of Ezra Pound. I just spaced his name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leglace View Post
    NIST, the company paid by the government to conduct the research, did admit to freefall on their November 2008 final report for building 7 only. Nobody seems to be able to measure the time of the towers accurately because of all the smoke.
    Assuming you're right that nobody can measure the time accurately then why are you guys inferring so much? The NIST report rejects the hypothesis that the building were felled by controlled demolition for a variety of reasons including that the window breakages and blast sound that would have occurred if explosives were used were not observed.

    David Ray Griffin is a retired professor of philosophy and religion, whereas the report that I cited http://www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf is written by a credentialed scientist Frank Greening. Can you all please point out to me what specifically is inaccurate from that report? Naming a book by someone with no expertise in the relevant fields is not evidence. And NIST re-writing their findings isn't evidence either. You guys have some seriously thin stuff here, be more specific.

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