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    I am sorry for continuing to post this stuff, but my gosh it is crazy!! Operation Cable Splicer says this:

    Operation Cable Splicer is "the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation."

    Operation Cable Splicer - SourceWatch

    There are plenty of other websites that list the same thing. Most are dated around 2005-2008. Cooper was telling us about it 20yrs ago. Again, I haven't found a so-called conspiracy yet. Everything is right in front of us. I just hope it takes a loooong time for all of it to kick in.

    Well, I have to add this site. I just stumbled on it by accident on a political forum. This stuff is coming.

    A Stability Police Force for the United States: Justification and Options for Creating U.S. Capabilities | RAND
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    Your doing the hard work, confirming everything is factual. Others have it easy by just chaulking it up to "conspiracy stuff".
    I pictured you as that guy Gaylord in Showboat, passing up taxis to walk because he's broke and playing it off as if it's the doctor's advice. - Clmetal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    I think we need a new board solely devoted to Conspiracy Theories, so I know when to put my tinfoil hat on.

    By the way, I can't evaluate the merits of the Popular Mechanics article (although I did read it), but ad hominem attacks aren't a legitimate way to question the evidence. It doesn't matter if the devil himself wrote the article, it's either true or false. Who the editors of PM are aligned with is comepletly irrelevant and an attempt to distract.

    Although I'm not a fan of Wiki, here is a great rundown of logical fallacies, most of which are violated regularly. List of fallacies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The source of the data is ALWAYS is a valid argument before you even enter into those logical fallacies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Check out Executive order 11490. All the president has to do is declare a state of emergency, which is so open ended it could be anything. Once he does that they have the right to take your money and property (Treasury Dept.), keep you from leaving the US (Justice and State Depts.) and put you in relocation camps (Labor Dept.) This stuff is ridiculous and it's right out in the open.

    Executive Order 11490
    Just google Japanese Internment Camps

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    The source of the data is ALWAYS is a valid argument before you even enter into those logical fallacies.
    It doesn't matter whether Ted Bundy or Mother Teresa tells you 2+2=4, it's either true or not.

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    The truth has been staring right at us all along. We just wait for mainstream acknowledgement to let us know it's there, and missing it every time. It's easier to get through our lives waiting to be spoon fed.
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    Flop, in the third post on this thread I told of my beliefs. But I didn't close my mind to other things. I bought the book Behold a Pale Horse with every intention of debunking every so-called "conspiracy theory". So far I haven't found anything I could debunk. I have provided links to what I have found and most are governmental laws or papers or whatever you want to call them. No one will claim they don't exist, they just don't want you to know about them and they did a good job on me. Check out the links I provided. I am only a couple hundred pages in the book so far, but I also haven't found anything that can't be proven to be a fact.

    Like I said. Later in the book there may be stuff like that, but so far these are just governmental things that are right out in the open. To quote En Vogue "Free your mind and the rest will follow".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    It doesn't matter whether Ted Bundy or Mother Teresa tells you 2+2=4, it's either true or not.
    Your example is a mathematical abstract & is not applicable to real life in the physical universe.

    When some one with an agenda presents data as FACTS, the SOURCE of the information & how it represented (sequencing) is of PRIMARY consideration.

    For example the 9/11 Commission Report was Chaired by someone from the Bush White House & a personal friend of Condoleeza Rice. Hardly impartial....

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    A Dutch building demolition expert who went on record as saying he believed that World Trade Center building Seven was brought down in a controlled demolition, has been reported killed in a car accident.
    Bloggers in the Netherlands have reported that Danny Jowenko was killed instantly on Saturday when his car veered off the road and collided head on into a tree. The reports state that Jowenko?s dog was found alive in the car.
    Jowenko was said to have been driving home from church. It is not clear at this time what caused the car to leave the road, according to the reports.
    Jowenko is best known in the 9/11 truth community for appearing in a video that first surfaced in 2006 on a Dutch television news program called, Zembla investigates 9/11 theories.
    After being shown the footage of WTC 7 collapsing Jowenko stated ?This is a controlled demolition carried out by a team of experts.?
    At the time Jowenko did not know that he was watching footage from September 11th 2001 and responded in disbelief when the reporters explained what the footage was.
    In 2007 reports began to circulate that Jowenko had retracted his stance on the footage of WTC7, however, he reaffirmed his previous opinion in a phone call with blogger Jeff Hill, noting ?When the FEMA makes a report that it came down by fire, and you have to earn your money in the States as a controlled demolition company and you say, ?No, it was a controlled demolition?, you?re gone. You know??
    The original interview with Danny Jowenko appears below, along with the 2007 phone call:




    Telephone interview with Jeff Hill 2/22/07:
    Jeff Hill: I was just wondering real quickly, I know you had commented on World Trade Center Building 7 before.
    Danny Jowenko: Yes, that?s right.
    Jeff Hill: And I?ve come to my conclusions, too, that it couldn?t have came down by fire.
    Danny Jowenko: No, it ? absolutely not.
    Jeff Hill: Are you still sticking by your comments where you say it must have been a controlled demolition?
    Danny Jowenko: Absolutely.
    Jeff Hill: Yes? So, you as being a controlled demolitions expert, you?ve looked at the building, you?ve looked at the video and you?ve determined with your expertise that ?
    Danny Jowenko: I looked at the drawings, the construction and it couldn?t be done by fire. So, no, absolutely not.
    Jeff Hill: OK, ?cause I was reading on the Internet, people were asking about you and they said, I wonder ? I heard something that Danny Jowenko retracted his statement of what he said earlier about World Trade Center 7 now saying that it came down by fire. I said, ?There?s no way that?s true.?
    Danny Jowenko: No, no, no, absolutely not.
    Jeff Hill: ?Cause if anybody was ? Like when I called Controlled Demolition here in North America, they tell me that , ?Oh, it?s possible it came down from fire? and this and that and stuff like that ?.
    Danny Jowenko: When the FEMA makes a report that it came down by fire, and you have to earn your money in the States as a controlled demolition company and you say, ?No, it was a controlled demolition?, you?re gone. You know?
    Jeff Hill: Yeah, exactly, you?ll be in a lot of trouble if you say that, right?
    Danny Jowenko: Of course, of course. That?s the end of your ? the end of the story.
    Jeff Hill: Yeah, ?cause I was calling demolitions companies just to ask them if they used the term, ?Pull it? in demolition terms and even Controlled Demolitions, Incorporated said they did. But the other people wouldn?t ? didn?t want to talk to me about Building 7 really because obviously ?cause they knew what happened and they didn?t want to say it.

    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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