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    Quote Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net View Post
    If you look at the Rockefeller sponsored sites ALL they talk about is the Philanthropic nature of the rockefellers-here is another side-Rockefeller was the principle share holder in the colorado mining corp.
    The Ludlow Massacre resulted in the violent deaths of 21 people during an attack by the Colorado National Guard on a tent colony of 1,200 striking coal miners and their families at Ludlow, Colorado on April 20, 1914. The deaths occurred after a day-long fight between strikers and the Guard. Two women and eleven children were asphyxiated and burned to death. Three union leaders and two strikers were killed by gunfire, along with one child, one passer-by, and one National Guardsman. In response, the miners armed themselves and attacked dozens of mines, destroying property and engaging in several skirmishes with the Colorado National Guard.

    Ruins of the Ludlow Colony in the direct aftermath of the massacre


    This was the deadliest incident in the 14-month 1913-1914 southern Colorado Coal Strike, itself the deadliest strike in the history of the United States.[1] The strike was organized by the United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) against coal mining companies in Colorado. The three largest companies involved were the Rockefeller family-owned Colorado Fuel & Iron Company (CF&I), the Rocky Mountain Fuel Company (RMF), and the Victor-American Fuel Company (VAF). Ludlow, located 12 miles (19 km) northwest of Trinidad, Colorado, is now a ghost town. The massacre site is owned by the UMWA, which erected a granite monument in memory of the miners and their families who died that day.[2]
    The Ludlow Tent Colony Site was designated a National Historic Landmark on January 16, 2009, and dedicated on June 28, 2009.[2] Modern archeological investigation largely supports the strikers' reports of the event.[3]
    The Ludlow Massacre was a watershed moment in American labor relations. Historian Howard Zinn has described the Ludlow Massacre as "the culminating act of perhaps the most violent struggle between corporate power and laboring men in American history".[4] Congress responded to public outcry by directing the House Committee on Mines and Mining to investigate the incident.[5] Its report, published in 1915, was influential in promoting child labor laws and an eight-hour work day.
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    A GREAT piece of forgotten History Russ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pm01 View Post
    Article? It's a book written by two editors from PM. So both are cousins of the "former director of HLS?" Even if so it takes a pretty narrow mind to dismiss the body of work. Seriously you spend too much time in the twilight zone for me to take you seriously. No offense, of course.
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    The end of NASA is pretty much predicted so far. He said it was used to meet with Russians. Now, as I have heard, if we want to go to space ever again, it will be on a Russian space shuttle. Coincidence? I don't know but since he predicted it 20yrs ago, it is convincing.

    And since these secret societies are based in Satanism, he also predicted the end of the church. Right now, they are trying to eliminate charitible donations for tax deductions. These include donations to the church. Seems like a reach, I know, but the other things he predicted 20 years ago are happening right now. Global warming is one of them. He predicted that it would be sold to the public as a truth to get us to follow whatever they say. Well, here we are 20yrs later and that is exactly what happened.

    I have to look up the Pope John Paul II accusations that he sold cyanide to the Nazi's before joining the church. It is a huge claim and I'm not real sure how to find that out. But I will try.

    Less than 2min later......

    Damn, that didn't take long. I yahooed "Pope John Paul II cyanide" and it was right there. How does a dude who sells cyanide to kill Jews later get elected pope without something secret going on? Weird stuff.
    Quinn in Germany The Protestant Church & the Catholic Church are BOTH State-sponsored (Taxpayer funded) Religions. No other Churches have that there. Any other churches often get labeled as Sects, Cults, not religious in nature etc to prevent them from getting tax payer donos.

    Also something worth noting, is that there is a HUGE connection between Pharmaceutical companies, Psychiatry, Nazi's & the Eugenics programs & Concentration Camps.

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    The Rockefellers were HUGE advocates of EUGENICS-Indiana was their primary headquarters.If you look into Eli Lily's background you'll see their biggest selling drug of all time ( prozac ) was based on Flouride-generic name of prozac is FLUOXETINE-the same crap the NAZIS used in the concentration camp to sedate the prisoners.
    FLOURIDE is NOT a good thing.
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    Funding the Eugenics Movement


    When Francis Galton coined the word eugenics and set out to promote the idea, he launched a movement based on an ideology. Different people at different times have been attracted by different aspects of eugenics ? and have often rejected some pieces. There is no neat package, no central headquarters, no guiding Fuhrer. Rather, eugenics is a collection of ideas and projects about improving the human race by social control of human reproduction.
    The eugenics movement has spread around the world, and into all facets of social life. No one in the United States (or anywhere in the developed world) today needs to look far to find eugenics: if you have trouble finding it in the mirror, you might look in your high school textbooks, and even in papers that you wrote yourself. It is in our newspapers (and all media), in the fiction we enjoy (and in much nonfiction), in government, at the mall, in your best friend's head. It is a way of thinking about life that some very smart people have been pushing for a century, with little or no resistance in the last 50 years.
    To ask, then, about the funding for the movement is to pose a huge and tangled question. Nonetheless, we will wade into the thicket, not planning to get a complete answer, but expecting to get some idea of the size of the eugenics movement, some sense of the magnitude of the challenge we face.
    The Robber Barons
    At the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, the United States changed dramatically, from a society based on agriculture to a society based on industry. The population did not shift from the farms to the cities right away, but the money and power shifted. Men no longer made huge fortunes based on tobacco or cotton plantations; instead, men made huge fortunes from steel, oil, railroads and banking. In 1934, Matthew Josephson stuck a label on the small handful of very aggressive and successful businessmen who amassed huge fortunes in that period, and the label stuck ? the "robber barons." The eugenics movement was funded substantially by them (and other multimillionaires).
    Andrew Carnegie (1835-1919) made his fortune in railroads and then steel. In 1889, he wrote an essay about the life of a rich man, explaining his view that the successful should spend part of life acquiring wealth and then part of life distributing it wisely. And he tried to follow his own advice. Unfortunately, some of his money went to the eugenics movement.
    The Carnegie Institution of Washington funded the Station for Experimental Evolution at Cold Spring Harbor on Long Island, beginning in 1904. This beautiful little outpost of biological research and study hosted the Eugenics Record Office (funded with Harriman money), beginning in 1910. C. B. Davenport was the director of the Cold Spring Harbor lab, and also the director of the Eugenics Record Office. Throughout the century, a number of universities and think-tanks have welcomed and groomed eugenics theorists and leaders. Individuals moved among these institutions as if there were revolving doors between them. The Carnegie Institution of Washington was among these eugenics think-tanks. For example, Robert S. Woodward was president of the Institution from 1904 to 1920, and helped to plan the Second International Congress of Eugenics. Other eugenics activists who went through the Carnegie revolving door included Ellsworth Huntington, Michael Teitelbaum and Howard Newcombe.
    In 1952, when the eugenics movement was reorganizing, the Carnegie Institution of Washington helped out. George W. Corner, representing the Carnegie Institution, argued that there was "a great and emergent need for which special weapons are required." The Institute helped to fund research on these "special weapons" ? new birth control methods.
    Edward Henry Harriman (1848-1909) made his fortune speculating on the stock market. In 1897, he took over the bankrupt Union Pacific Railroad, and then went on to build a railroad empire in the West. When he died, his wife inherited his money. The following year, she provided $500,000 to found the Eugenics Record Office. The Eugenics Record Office was involved in the forced sterilization campaigns and the anti-immigration laws.
    In 1932, the Third International Eugenics Congress was held in New York, at the Museum of Natural History. (The First International Eugenics Congress had been in 1912 in London, and the Second was in New York.) Mrs. E. H. Harriman was among the sponsors, along with Mrs. H. B. DuPont and Dr. J. Harvey Kellogg, among others.
    John Davison Rockefeller (1839-1937) made his fortune in the oil industry. He founded Standard Oil, which at one time controlled 95 percent of the oil refining business in the country. He and his descendants gave away hundreds of millions of dollars.
    The Rockefellers funded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany, when eugenicists were preparing the way ideologically for what eventually became the world's most infamous slaughter, the Nazi holocaust. The Rockefeller Institute supported Alexis Carrel, who advocated the use of gas to get rid of the unwanted. John D. Rockefeller III founded the Population Council. Rockefeller money made Alfred Kinsey's sex research possible.
    In the fall of 1993, the Rockefeller Archive Center Newsletter published "The Rockefeller Foundation, the Population Council and the Groundwork for New Population Policies" by John B. Sharpless of the University of Wisconsin, Madison. Sharpless had been studying the files of the Rockefeller Foundation (RF), the records of the Population Council, and the personal papers of John D. Rockefeller III. He concluded that "Foundations and individual philanthropists are important in understanding the impressively quick and nearly unanimous change in attitudes and ideas about population that occurred during the 1960s." Such foundations funded the development of contraceptives, but also built the international network of experts who shaped the public debate, who shared "a core body of knowledge and a common mode of discourse" as well as a "shared set of assumptions about how population dynamics worked." Sharpless wrote, "The power to accomplish this task was based on their relationship with the philanthropic community. In addition to the Rockefeller Foundation and the Population Council, other Foundations active in this area included the Ford Foundation, the Milbank Memorial Fund and, to a lesser extent, the Carnegie Corporation, and the Conservation Foundation."
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    I think we need a new board solely devoted to Conspiracy Theories, so I know when to put my tinfoil hat on.

    By the way, I can't evaluate the merits of the Popular Mechanics article (although I did read it), but ad hominem attacks aren't a legitimate way to question the evidence. It doesn't matter if the devil himself wrote the article, it's either true or false. Who the editors of PM are aligned with is comepletly irrelevant and an attempt to distract.

    Although I'm not a fan of Wiki, here is a great rundown of logical fallacies, most of which are violated regularly. List of fallacies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Quinn in Germany The Protestant Church & the Catholic Church are BOTH State-sponsored (Taxpayer funded) Religions. No other Churches have that there. Any other churches often get labeled as Sects, Cults, not religious in nature etc to prevent them from getting tax payer donos.

    Also something worth noting, is that there is a HUGE connection between Pharmaceutical companies, Psychiatry, Nazi's & the Eugenics programs & Concentration Camps.
    At this point, nothing would suprise me. I have been taking my time readin BAPH because I keep stopping to look stuff up. It's all right there. So far I haven't found anything to be untrue or even inexplicable. I might run into stuff down the road, but right now everything he has said is easily obtained knoweledge if you just know what to look for. Mount Weather and FEMA are pretty scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    At this point, nothing would suprise me. I have been taking my time readin BAPH because I keep stopping to look stuff up. It's all right there. So far I haven't found anything to be untrue or even inexplicable. I might run into stuff down the road, but right now everything he has said is easily obtained knoweledge if you just know what to look for. Mount Weather and FEMA are pretty scary.
    Article VI and the UN Treaty are also scary. I couldn't believe this stuff was possible.

    The population control issue was also interesting. Now I know why we do nothing about Darfur, where women are slaughtered.

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    Check out Executive order 11490. All the president has to do is declare a state of emergency, which is so open ended it could be anything. Once he does that they have the right to take your money and property (Treasury Dept.), keep you from leaving the US (Justice and State Depts.) and put you in relocation camps (Labor Dept.) This stuff is ridiculous and it's right out in the open.

    Executive Order 11490

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