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    I thought most training with Baton TASERS dealt with Nerve Clusters and pressure points-these guys just seemed to be beating on him rather than letting the Baton do the work ? problem there is accidental death as I was TASERED from 10 feet away in the neck and dropped like a rock .(It was pouring down rain and I refused to open my trunk)-anyway, I lost all memory for a few days. I imagine a sustained TASE (10-20 seconds) could do permanent damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    That is bull crap if she got arrested. I hate the idea that I have to obey a cop even when it comes to me speaking. As long as she was not inciting violence they have no right to do anything about what she is yelling. The ballpark can ask her to leave but it is not illegal to yell stop it. Cops do on occasion take matters to far in the name of their own safety, which is crap because in most situations they have all of the weapons and protective gear, they need to understand that the more aggressive the cops are the more aggressive the crowd or perpetrator becomes, it is only natural to want to protect yourself.

    I am pro cop but this kind of stuff I cant stand. I didn't see the need to hit the guy, I saw the need for the two cops to put the one person on the ground and cuff him.
    I am usually pro cop as well, but I know that they are people like anyone else, and range from the most dedicated and well trained to the power hungry egomaniacs. I dated a police dispatcher for three years and heard lots of stories, but I don't have enough knowledge on the subject to contribute anything that would add to what PM01 or MRichardson have said.

    Regarding the arrest of a yelling bystander, there was recently a case here in Connecticut where a Yale student was videotaping a raid on a nightclub and was told by the police to stop. When he didn't stop (he was in no way interferring with the raid) he was arrested. A bill has now been introduced to guarantee citizens' right to videotape police officers in thge performance of their duties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I dated a police dispatcher for three years and heard lots of stories....
    What was his name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    What was his name?
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    Somehow I knew that was coming!! Touche!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    Regarding the arrest of a yelling bystander, there was recently a case here in Connecticut where a Yale student was videotaping a raid on a nightclub and was told by the police to stop. When he didn't stop (he was in no way interferring with the raid) he was arrested. A bill has now been introduced to guarantee citizens' right to videotape police officers in thge performance of their duties.
    I've followed some of the videotaping cases, and I believe anyone should be able to videotape something that is happening in the public realm without fear of punishment. Conversely, if you are standing around yelling at a cop to "stop it", or some such nonsense then I think you are putting yourself in a position where you may be cuffed.

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    The problem I have with most of these video taped things is that we don't see everything. Who knows what this guy did before he got escorted down the stairs. I also read an article that said he told the security guard that he elbowed "I will kill you". If there was a rowdy bunch who got ejected and then a security guard stood in front of respectful fans so that they couldn't see the game they paid for, then the guard incited the problem. But we don't know. Even if that did happen, we could only assume that the security guard told the police only that someone was getting unruly, not that he was blocking the view of paying customers. So, the cops wouldn't have known anything but that.

    All of that may have been caught on film and edited to what we see. Again, we don't know. That's why it is so hard to know what was proper and what was not with this limited footage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    The problem I have with most of these video taped things is that we don't see everything . . . it is so hard to know what was proper and what was not with this limited footage.
    Very true, but sometimes something is so obvious (Rodney King) that it's hard to misinterpret. Also, as in the case of this video, it does stimulate some informative discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    Very true, but sometimes something is so obvious (Rodney King) that it's hard to misinterpret. Also, as in the case of this video, it does stimulate some informative discussion.
    No doubt about that. I just personally have a hard time judging one way or the other with something like this. If it were like the Rodney King, then obviously the police were justified in their actions. (just kidding)

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