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    First, as an aside, I (a white man) HATE the term African-American as referring to black people. My ancestors were from Russia, but I don't consider myself a Russian-American. Black, white, American indian, etc. etc. are races. People of any race who are American citizens are AMERICANS. PERIOD. To me, an African-American is a person of any race who holds dual citizenship.

    Rant over.

    "What if the white guy was speaking to a mostly white group like the NRA and said something like "You people have the power to get the right people into congress!" I don't think anyone would think that was derogatory to anyone."

    Probably true, but still, the term "you people" does carry a condescending, us-them connotation. The speaker would have been bettter off saying just "You have . . ." or "You, the members of the NRA, have . . ."

    I agree that these things can be over analyzed, but certain words and phrases do have implications that while not necessarily intended, are in fact heard.
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    Overall, I agree with you Spider. I just think this political correctness is dividing the country much more than bringing people together. I have known guys and dated girls who over analyze every spoken word, trying to find some hidden meaning. It is exhausting to be around those people and I couldn't imagine how tiring it is to actually be one of those people.

    If everyone would just relax and listen to what is actually said and not what it might "really" imply, then America would be a whole lot less volitile. As it stands, white people are afraid to talk to blacks on the street and vice versa because everyone is afraid to unwittingly offend someone. This PC crap has gotten ridiculous IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Overall, I agree with you Spider. . . . If everyone would just relax and listen to what is actually said and not what it might "really" imply, then America would be a whole lot less volitile . . . everyone is afraid to unwittingly offend someone. This PC crap has gotten ridiculous IMO.
    And I agree with you. Political correctness is often just courtesy and common sense carried to the extreme. Good people should do their best not to offend others, and people should not be so quick to be offended when well intentioned statements can be misinterpreted. The pendulum can swing too far in either direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I couldn't imagine how tiring it is to actually be one of those people.
    What do you mean 'those people'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    What do you mean 'those people'?
    That's either a very funny comment or a very ironic comment, I don't know which.

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    I don't believe that there can be a collective "we" in this nation when it comes to politics.

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    On consideration, I think I prefer "You people" to "My fellow Americans . . . ."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    That's either a very funny comment or a very ironic comment, I don't know which.
    That was both funny and ironic. Nice one Sully!

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