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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I've lifted the ban on ban, he's free to come back if he wants.

    What I've also done though is set a restriction on his account to where he'll be unable to access this section (since this is where he tends to get hot and bothered).

    If he comes back and is able to avoid any outbursts like he displayed in this thread I'll lift that restriction.
    Kudos to the leadership in how this was handled. Enforcing rules has a dual benefit: the violator faces personal consequences for their actions and the user community sees the rules have meaning. Unenforced rules are meaningless and invites abuse.

    Good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I've lifted the ban on ban, he's free to come back if he wants.

    What I've also done though is set a restriction on his account to where he'll be unable to access this section (since this is where he tends to get hot and bothered).

    If he comes back and is able to avoid any outbursts like he displayed in this thread I'll lift that restriction.
    Cool, I think that's the fair way to handle it, nice job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Nothing Ban said could have been as offensive as your Avatar, JensenS.
    Yeah, but I'm the boss around these parts.

    I can flout authority and be offensive as much as I want.
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    I have two questions.

    1. Why is Hudson Taylor's opinion any more valid than another's?
    2. If Hudson Taylor was advocating an opposite opinion would MSNBC be providing him a microphone and camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Richardson View Post
    Bring him back for a discussion of Irish jokes.
    *Chortle*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tight-Waist View Post
    I have two questions.

    1. Why is Hudson Taylor's opinion any more valid than another's?
    2. If Hudson Taylor was advocating an opposite opinion would MSNBC be providing him a microphone and camera?
    1. It's not necessarily more valid, if you disagree with him then you're not going to find it valid at all, that's the case with anyone invited to discuss an issue on a news program. However, I'm not sure that his opinion is the point here because he's not advocating a specific political stance or a particular legislative action. If he were on the program discussing why Don't Ask Don't Tell should be repealed then you would have a point. Instead, he's an athlete who created a website specifically addressing awareness of homophobia in college athletics, not some random guy they chose to discuss the topic because he fits MSNBC's ideology. So again, it's not a matter of having more validity, he's doing work on the topic of discussion so they invited him on to discuss what he's working on.

    2. What exactly is the opposite position on what he's talking about? We should be more homophobic in athletics? I'm not trying to be obnoxious, I'm genuinely curious because it doesn't seem that he's taking a stance on a political issue. As far as I know, politicians have yet to debate legislation on homophobia in college athletics. It's more advocacy for increased awareness than Hudson Taylor espousing a political agenda. I suppose one could be of the opinion that it's better to ignore homophobia in college athletics rather than to discuss it, but that's not really a position that will get you on any television show, be it liberal, conservative or whatever. If the opposite opinion is that being gay is wrong because it says so in the Bible (the implication being that we shouldn't care about treating homosexual people with respect) then that's introducing a whole lot more ideology and politics than anything Hudson Taylor says in this interview. It's about respect, whether you agree with their lifestyle or you don't, not political ideology or political action. And if you thought the interview was political then you're going to have to be more specific about how because others on this thread did not get the same impression.
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    Whoa, wait a second......an Irishman got drunk???????
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    Yeah, but I'm the boss around these parts.

    I can flout authority and be offensive as much as I want.
    Not proud of this. And I'm not even drunk, yet. I actually have a college degree in English and am currently pursuing another one in Physical Therapy. So, I am educated. I read a lot. But.............I had to look up the word "flout". I thought you made that up. You actually used it properly, as well. I am now smarter for having been on a thread that has gotten someone banned. Hat tip to you, sir.

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    Default Re: 3x AA Hudson Taylor Advocates for Gay Rights

    I actually had to pause for a second as I was writing the sentence.

    Given that I'm the self proclaimed "boss" around these parts I don't know who's authority that I'd be flouting.
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