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    Default Re: Life was much better in Soviet times people in Siberia say

    Put it this way, Big's opinion isn't a lone voice in the woods. Of course I don't have a percentage. I didn't make a statement of fact. I made a statement that this is my sense of how globalisation is viewed in other places. You are free to disagree.

    Just one piece of evidence: widespread protests whenever and wherever G-8 meets.
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    Default Re: Life was much better in Soviet times people in Siberia say

    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    Put it this way, Big's opinion isn't a lone voice in the woods. Of course I don't have a percentage. I didn't make a statement of fact. I made a statement that this is my sense of how globalisation is viewed in other places. You are free to disagree.


    Matclone, speaking of East Germany. Fall of Soviet Union made things worse over there. Here is another article:


    Newser) - Young, educated women are fleeing eastern Germany?and Neo-Nazi parties are flourishing in the vacuum they leave behind. One-and-a-half million people, two-thirds of them women, have left left the economically stagnant east since the mid-1990s, a new study shows.

    http://www.newser.com/story/2715.html?refid=YTF_S

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    Since 1991, more than two-thirds of all those who have left Eastern Germany have been women. The result is that in many towns in the region, there are simply not enough to go around -- some places are missing up to 25 percent of their young women. Even worse, the young men who stay behind are often poorly educated, unemployed and frustrated -- perfect fodder for neo-Nazi groups looking for members.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...485942,00.html


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    Default Re: Life was much better in Soviet times people in Siberia say

    Sad to see the rise of the Neo-Nazis. They evidently have a few seats in parliament now.

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    Are there any former communist nations that have benefited from capitalism or are we just focusing on the negatives again?

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    Default Re: Life was much better in Soviet times people in Siberia say

    I can't speak for Big, but there's a considerable amount of propaganda in the U.S. that says capitalism is wonderful, communism is evil, and that everything that is hunky dory in Eastern Europe following the fall of communism. I bet you will find no dissent whatsoever to this view on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, or CBS. And so, that notion is due for some challenges. That's one great thing about the internet: we dont' get the same old views from the same few sources. All I hope for, and seldom see here, is acknowledgment that there are problems with capitalism.

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    There are problems with capitalism.

    Although, this doesn't make Bush and everything American evil.

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    Default Re: Life was much better in Soviet times people in Siberia say

    No, it doesn't. Do you think Big's posting of accounts of present day East Germany, or his claim that the Soviets were better under a communist state are an indictment of Bush or America?

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    Default Re: Life was much better in Soviet times people in Siberia say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    Are there any former communist nations that have benefited from capitalism or are we just focusing on the negatives again?
    Ground, its not a matter of which former communist country benefited but who and how many people have benefited. Most former communist party memebers are doing pretty well along with a few new money oligarchs. Heck, Putin was a KGB agent and now he is friends with Bush and Russian President. But the average Russian is basically screwed.

    How many people do you need to pump oil from the ground? The rest are on their own.

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