Curious as to why this is on the P&R board, its no big deal or anything, I guess baseball is a religion to some of us?
I can't blame Aaron for not wanting to go see Bonds. Anyone with even a decent bit of sense can tell he's juiced. He'll break the record assuming he doesn't get hurt, but while there won't be a literal asterisk next to his name, you can bet in a lot of people's heads there will be a figurative one.
Jensen, I started this thread and I have no good explanation as to why I started it here.
If we assume Bonds is juiced, then isn't it reasonable to assume that other players of his generation were also juiced? If so, he's still one of the greats of his era--even if the statistical comparison to past greats, such as Aaron, may be in question.
MoJo: words of a real baseball fan.
Years ago, I used to get the same kind of feeling when Bob Gibson was pitching. I swear, when the game was on the line, he would strike out batters just to settle the matter--even strike out the side. Of course, I had Harry Carey and Jack Buck telling me all about it--which helped.
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Just my take on Bonds. In my opinion "Game of Shadows" completely nailed him. He's still a Hall of Famer in my opinion, but I don't see many sparing him any love when it comes time to look at his final place in history.
Originally Posted by matclone
MOJO, I don't doubt that SF fans get a thrill from Bonds. I live in the SF Bay area, so I see it in the newspapers and hear it on sports radio. If you're a Giants fan, then it would certainly be thrilling for him to pull through in the clutch with a homer once in every seven at bats. That's not even debatable.
Originally Posted by MOJO
I believe that Bonds has taken massive amounts of steroids, and that is the reason he has had so many great seasons so late in his career. I believe that Giants fans are willfully ignoring the circumstantial evidence, and they overlook his surliness and arrogance. If he wasn't a Giant (no pun intended), then SF fans would have no love for him at all, IMO. He's certainly not a beloved player like Willie Mays, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Muhammed Ali, etc...
Maybe Aaron is'nt going to SF b/c he doesn't want to see the record broken?
Could be part of it. I had to laugh last night, cause there he was, in L.A., for the Dodgers-Padres game (and celebration of Jackie Robinson), so apparently Hammerin' Hank is willing to hop on a plane and fly to California for somebody.
p.s. he did a very nice interview with the broadcasters, as did Rachel Robinson.
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in 20 post season games for the Pirates
Not to mention the saddest moment in Pittsburgh sports history... the slowest man in baseball, Sid Bream scoring from second base on a weak and off target Bonds throw to blow a trip to the World Series.
That's the legacy he left in Pittsburgh.
Baseball is a team sport and Barry is a "me" player.
He didn't fit in at all in Pittsburgh.
Cali is more his style.
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