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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Okay. I found out who he was speaking to and I don't think he was out of line.

    The offending comments came hours after Bentley was sworn in as governor, when he told a Montgomery Baptist church audience

    Here is the link. http://mystateline.com/fulltext-news/?nxd_id=222196

    Doesn't sound like he was speaking as Governor, to me.
    Wow. That shows me that the media just blew this up to create an uproar. Of course UPROARS are what get people to turn on the TV or go to the website. Manipulation to generate ad revenue. It is what it is really all about. Not the truth that's for sure. Whats the old newspaper man adage? "Dont the truth get in the way of a good story." There you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Okay. I found out who he was speaking to and I don't think he was out of line.

    The offending comments came hours after Bentley was sworn in as governor, when he told a Montgomery Baptist church audience

    Here is the link. http://mystateline.com/fulltext-news/?nxd_id=222196

    Doesn't sound like he was speaking as Governor, to me.
    Your reasoning seems twisted to me.
    He is the elected governor, so he is always speaking as the governor until his term is over.
    Obvioulsy he was not setting official policy, but he is telling his congregation how he feels toward non-Christians.

    When he walks into the Statehouse do you expect to say that he treats everyone as brothers and those other feelings are just how he feels when he is in church?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    Your reasoning seems twisted to me.
    He is the elected governor, so he is always speaking as the governor until his term is over.
    Obvioulsy he was not setting official policy, but he is telling his congregation how he feels toward non-Christians.

    When he walks into the Statehouse do you expect to say that he treats everyone as brothers and those other feelings are just how he feels when he is in church?
    My reasoning is that there is a seperation between church and state. As a governor, he can't bring religion into his decisions. As a church member, the state can't limit his beliefs. Every president we've ever had has claimed to be a Christian. They are frequently filmed going into and out of church. But once that door closes, he is just another member of the congregation. There are many others in governor roles or roles as any elected official, that claim to be a member of one religion or another. We all assume that they can seperate the two and I think this guy deserves the same assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    Your reasoning seems twisted to me.
    He is the elected governor, so he is always speaking as the governor until his term is over.
    Obvioulsy he was not setting official policy, but he is telling his congregation how he feels toward non-Christians.

    When he walks into the Statehouse do you expect to say that he treats everyone as brothers and those other feelings are just how he feels when he is in church?
    I guess a little background might go a long way here.

    The offending comments came hours after Bentley was sworn in as governor, when he told a Montgomery Baptist church audience, quote, "Anybody who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister."
    Let's remember he is talking to a church that believes that you must be born-again. (accept Jesus as Lord and Savior) Churches with this belief call fellow born-again men as brothers and women as sisters. So he was speaking to the people attending this church that he cannot refer to them as brother or sister. This probably happens in this church every Sunday when alter call is given for people to folks to come forward and accept Christ.
    He did not say he would be mean to anyone or treat them bad. He did not say he would discriminate against others either. This is what I meant when I said that it would be taken out of context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Okay. I found out who he was speaking to and I don't think he was out of line.

    The offending comments came hours after Bentley was sworn in as governor, when he told a Montgomery Baptist church audience

    Here is the link. http://mystateline.com/fulltext-news/?nxd_id=222196

    Doesn't sound like he was speaking as Governor, to me.
    Serioiusly quinn? It appears to me that he was speaking before a Martin Luther King Junior Day celebration specifically because he was the Governor. To me that is speaking as the Governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachsparky View Post
    Serioiusly quinn? It appears to me that he was speaking before a Martin Luther King Junior Day celebration specifically because he was the Governor. To me that is speaking as the Governor.
    It sounded like a church function to me. The church was celebrating MLK and he was asked to speak. I can't find anything in the story that indicates that he was speaking on behalf of the governorship or the state. If you can find something that indicates it, show it to me and I would agree that he shouldn't do that. The story I found said nothing of the sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Doesn't sound like he was speaking as Governor, to me.
    So everyone in the congregation got a chance to speak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    It sounded like a church function to me. The church was celebrating MLK and he was asked to speak. I can't find anything in the story that indicates that he was speaking on behalf of the governorship or the state. If you can find something that indicates it, show it to me and I would agree that he shouldn't do that. The story I found said nothing of the sort.
    Why do you think he was asked to speak quinn? Just because he is a nice guy, or because he was just elected the governor of the state? Really tell me what you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    So everyone in the congregation got a chance to speak?
    What makes you think he is a member of the congregation spider. I did not see that said anywhere?

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