"If the Black community is so offended by what Imus said, where is the outrage against rappers. Why is it acceptable for rappers (which are mostly black) to verbaly rape and demean women? Why no backlash from the Black community for that. What Imus said in Dr. Suess compared to most rappers."
My unsolicited two cents: the rappers who demean women and glorify violence are just as bad and just as contributory to the decline of civility as the Howard Sterns and Jerry Springers.
We don't think it's OK when rappers say it either! I listen to my fair share of rap in the car and at home with the boys and they know that's one thing that will get the radio switched to NPR real fast. When they put in a CD, they hit "skip" as soon as an offensive song starts because they know that it's offensive to me.
Maybe Imus did the world a favor. If a 70-year old white guy is using the term, it might have run its course in the hip hop world.
Yeah, and those whiners are wrong to play the victim as well.
Originally Posted by matclone
On second note, I forgot to add something. Imus's comments were not racially stirred. Last time I checked, there are white women on the rutgers team, so I don't see why people are playing the race card here. Rev. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are using this to provoke racism. Like Bonnie said, if anything people should be offended that he called women hos and not take into account only black women, because there are white women on the team too.
I am and have been influenced by my family in many ways like everyone has. I also have a sense of what is right and wrong and have the ability to part ways with them when I feel they are wrong. My Grandfather is a great example of this, he is a bigot hands down but I can express my own views and keep my own beliefs.
When you speak about prison it does hit close to home. I have had many family members including myself (jail) spend time in prison and jail. Some of my family is straight up white trash and hillbilly but I love them. THat doesnt mean that if someone talks bad about them I will go to the knuckles for it. When I was a child I may have but what do I care now. I know who I am and what my family is thats all that matters.
Sorry, I didn't mean to hit close to home, but your comments are spoken like a real human being.
If the Black community is so offended by what Imus said, where is the outrage against rappers.
Now you speak in generalities, and blacks in general have presumed shortcomings--because they are black. How do you know "the black community" is not outraged by rappers? For that matter, how do you know "they" all are offended by Imus?
Why is it acceptable for rappers (which are mostly black) to verbaly rape and demean women? Why no backlash from the Black community for that.
As I mentioned before, the difference is the context and history. Who is saying what about whom? What is their present and their historical relationship? Remove the context, and it's easy to explain away, or villify, just about any statement.
don't see why people are playing the race card here.
Because Imus is playing the race card here.
So he's attacking both white and black women. He never said black nappy headed hos because the team consists of both black and white women. I guess Imus is a racist towards white women too, but no one seems to mention that.
Oh Please. Stop with the "whites are victims of racism" spiel. You're in mixed company here (mixed points of view) so it may not get the ooga-chaka, ooh, ooh, response you presumably desire.
So you think he was disparaging white women? Did you listen to his speech (I haven't) to get it's full context? Do you know what "nappy headed" refers to? Would you say that about a white person?
It's not like no one cares that rappers use the word -
Gil Scott-Heron comes to mind in the song "Message to the Messengers" on his Spirits album.
"But I think you young folks need to know that...things don't go both ways.
You can't talk respect on every other song or just every other day.
What I'm speakin' on know is the raps about the women folks:
On one song, she's your African Queen and on the next one, she a joke.
And you ain't said no words that I haven't heard, but that ain't no
It only insults 8 people out of 10 and questions your intelligence.
Four letter words or fours syllable words won't make you a poet,
It will only magnify how shallow you are and let ev'rybody know it."