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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    Let me, then, ask both of you this: If what Paul wrote and published is so benign, why does he try to hide behind it today? Why does he now claim that it was a "ghost writer" who wrote this stuff? Why does he claim that he does not support these ideas today?

    Certainly, if these ideas are benign and just "non PC" (I love that one), he should be embracing these writings, as both of you seem to be doing.

    Finally, do they pass what I call "the newspaper test?" Would you publish such writings in the newspaper under your own name in your local community? I suspect, just to differ from me, that both of you will say yes, but you can't blow smoke up my ass. NO one would do that, unless, of course, they were openly and blatantly racist.
    What I embrace his the political agenda to END THE FED & reduce taxation among other things. I also embrace the facts. If pointing out a double standard that favors minorities offends someone then they ought to get a dictionary & clear up their misunderstood definitions of what they are talking about. It is clearly an inability to differentiate that has them all muddled up.

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    So, you didn't read the newsletters that Paul wrote? The quote is directly from them, in the link that I provided.

    I would suggest reading what Paul wrote in his newsletters. Doubtful that it will, but it should change your opinion. He certainly runs from discussing them these days!
    Ban, yes I did read them. I usually supply a link however with any quote I cite.

    If writing a newsletter that stepped on someone's toes or letting someone else publish it with his name on it is the biggest crime you can come up with on him, honestly I am not worried. On a scale of rightness vs wrongness the guy is so overwhelmingly weighted on the side of rightnesses, the wrongnesses are barely worth mentioning. The man has changed the GOP & the political land scape of this country just like I predicted for the better.

    I am not sure if you are a Dalai Lama supporter, (as I am having lived in Tibet & Nepal) but it seems that you are concerned about injustice & equality. If that is the case I could give you a list of things to examine that out government has perpetrated over the past 10 years let alone the last 100.

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    I know this is off topic, Ban, but if you are going to target Ron Paul then you have to do so while also attacking someone who seems to be a hero of yours. Was Jesse right in saying these things? And if not, should we disregard any and everything he has done before or since these comments?


    It's tough to imagine this year's Republican National Convention featuring a prime-time speaker who once said that that "Zionism is a kind of poisonous weed that is choking Judaism." Or that he was "sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust." Or that traditional Democratic support for Israel is because of "the Jewish element in the party ... a kind of glorified form of bribery." And certainly not if he had ever referred to Jews as "Hymies" and New York as "Hymietown."
    The Rev. Jesse Jackson, of course, has made all of these comments, and more. Jackson said those things in his 30s and 40s, and has since apologized for them. But his speech at the Democratic Convention Tuesday evening is at the very least an interesting example of the double standard that clearly exists in the media's -- and the Democratic Party's -- sensitivity to anti-Semitism.

    With all that said, I don't know what racism would have to do with the fed. Robert Byrd was on committees that affected the fed and he was a member of the KKK. All money is green, so racism should have never been brought into this discussion, IMO.
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    I'm only replying ti two things, as this is already tedious and pointless. Why discuss prejudice, racism, and discrimination in the U.S. when all of these things have been wiped off of American soil?

    First off, you did say I am a racist, or certainly implied it. I have a dirty little secret for you: Yes, I am. In fact, we all are. However, here are your words.

    "If you think that RP is a racist then I can "assume" that you are the sort of person who "is looking for stuff to twist around in order to substantiate your political agenda & attack those who differ from yours." Which to me is just about another form of "racism.'"

    Second, you can read all of Paul's racist editorials from his newsletters in the link that I provided in my initial post. That is where his quotes and ideas come from. All his words are his and his alone, with no need to "turn them around" to convey his messages. They all speak loud and clear.

    Keep in mind: Paul first embraced the newsletters. Then, he claimed that they were written by "ghost writers." Today, he denies that he even had any knowledge of them. If they are benign, why is hiding behind them?

    No need to reply. I'm over and out, as racism is no longer in existence in America today.



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    Ban, yes I did read them. I usually supply a link however with any quote I cite.

    If writing a newsletter that stepped on someone's toes or letting someone else publish it with his name on it is the biggest crime you can come up with on him, honestly I am not worried. On a scale of rightness vs wrongness the guy is so overwhelmingly weighted on the side of rightnesses
    As I said, if you're comfortable with blatant racism from a current house member and former Presidential candidate, then, as the kid's say, "it's all good."

    I am not, but I'm also not wrong for having that discomfort and will never apologize or made to feel like a bad person for it, which too often happens from "certain folks."
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    OT but maybe not....

    Amazon.com: Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning (9780385511841): Jonah Goldberg: Books

    A nice little book that shows you that much of the "Progressive Era" is fascist & hence racist in its underlying thinking. In it, Goldberg probes modern liberalism's spooky origins in early 20th-century fascist politics. With chapter titles such as Adolf Hitler: Man of the Left and Brave New Village: Hillary Clinton and the Meaning of Liberal Fascism—Goldberg argues that fascism has always been a phenomenon of the left.

    This is Goldberg's first book, and he wisely curbs his wry National Review style. Goldberg's study of the conceptual overlap between fascism and ideas emanating from the environmental movement, Hollywood, the Democratic Party and what he calls other left-wing organs is shocking and hilarious. He lays low such lights of liberal history as PPH founder Margaret Sanger, apparently a radical eugenicist, and JFK, whose cult of personality, according to Goldberg, reeks of fascist political theater.

    Sanger was a proponent of negative eugenics a social philosophy which claims that human hereditary traits can be improved through social intervention. Sanger's eugenic policies ran to an exclusionary immigration policy, free access to birth control methods and full family-planning autonomy for the able-minded, and compulsory segregation or sterilization for the profoundly retarded.

    (also BlackGenocide.org | The Truth About Margaret Sanger )

    Much of this will be music to conservatives' ears, but other readers may be stopped cold by the parallels Goldberg draws between Nazi Germany and the New Deal. The book's tone suffers as it oscillates between revisionist historical analyses and the application of fascist themes to American popular culture; nonetheless, the controversial arc Goldberg draws from Mussolini to The Matrix is well-researched, seriously argued—and funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    I'm only replying ti two things, as this is already tedious and pointless. Why discuss prejudice, racism, and discrimination in the U.S. when all of these things have been wiped off of American soil?

    First off, you did say I am a racist, or certainly implied it. I have a dirty little secret for you: Yes, I am. In fact, we all are. However, here are your words.

    "If you think that RP is a racist then I can "assume" that you are the sort of person who "is looking for stuff to twist around in order to substantiate your political agenda & attack those who differ from yours." Which to me is just about another form of "racism.'"

    Second, you can read all of Paul's racist editorials from his newsletters in the link that I provided in my initial post. That is where his quotes and ideas come from. All his words are his and his alone, with no need to "turn them around" to convey his messages. They all speak loud and clear.

    Keep in mind: Paul first embraced the newsletters. Then, he claimed that they were written by "ghost writers." Today, he denies that he even had any knowledge of them. If they are benign, why is hiding behind them?

    No need to reply. I'm over and out, as racism is no longer in existence in America today.

    Ban I think anyone can that that was tongue-in-cheek. I think you are the only one who thinks I called you a racist. ASSUME was in QUOTES. My point was that people with this sort of mind set usually are just out to paint a BLACK PR picture about someone to discredit them. Its an OLD smear tactic. It doesn't stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    As I said, if you're comfortable with blatant racism from a current house member and former Presidential candidate, then, as the kid's say, "it's all good."

    I am not, but I'm also not wrong for having that discomfort and will never apologize or made to feel like a bad person for it, which too often happens from "certain folks."
    I don't see it as "Blatant racism." But then again you are ok with a President who bombs & kills innocent people. Yea it's all good.

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    I don't see it as "Blatant racism." But then again you are ok with a President who bombs & kills innocent people. Yea it's all good.
    You may not, but Paul sure must, otherwise he wouldn't be back peddling and saying that he had no knowledge of them...or was it a "ghost writer" this time?

    So, copy and paste his writings and publish them in your newsletter at work under your name. Tell me that others won't see them as "blatant racism."
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