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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Yeah, obviously, that's why it directly attacks a famous Christian holiday, during the time associated with that holiday, as opposed to simply stating something like "There is no God." Obviously they are using Christian images like the Nativity for illustrative purposes only.
    First off they did that (a board saying there is no God) this summer. Secondly here again are the exact words,

    You KNOW it is a Myth
    This season, celebrate REASON
    Please be so kind as to highlight for me where this imagined attack is? I am really curious!

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    You're kidding right Sparky?

    If "this season" you are celebrating "reason" it means in the past you were not reasonable because your belief system was "unreasonable". Since the only people who believe in Jesus Christ as a Savior are the ones who celebrate his birth as a religious spectacle are Christians it is 100% an attack on that point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    You're kidding right Sparky?

    If "this season" you are celebrating "reason" it means in the past you were not reasonable because your belief system was "unreasonable". Since the only people who believe in Jesus Christ as a Savior are the ones who celebrate his birth as a religious spectacle are Christians it is 100% an attack on that point of view.
    You are kidding right Schlottke. You have heard the saying "The reason for the Season" right. That was simply a play on that statement and it was an invite to all those who use reason to join in the celebration of IT. Again here are the exact words,

    You KNOW it is a Myth
    This season, celebrate REASON
    Show me in these words where the IMAGINED attack is. Good luck with that one.

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    I wonder if the people complaining about the atheist expressing their opinions are as offended by the Christians expressing their opinions? What say you?

    Oh and BTW, for those of you who imagine seeing an attack in that other billboard, what attacks do you see in these?

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    The first one doesn't seem offensive to me, just an outsized Bible quotation, unless that is not a quote or the picture is something offensive, I can't tell what the picture is.

    The second one is an expression of belief, but also an attack on homosexuals, and I agree it is douchey.

    The third one I'm not sure what to make of it. What is the referenced scripture?

    The fourth one is clearly in very poor taste.

    Anyway, the clear difference is between the ones that ATTACK someone or something else, whereas others are just proponents of their belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    You're crazy! Well, not really, but if I tried your experiment I might find that I am capable of behaving differently, but I know that it wouldn't change my spiritual beliefs. It's not that I cling to them religiously [irony internded] and won't consider alternatives, it's that I have arrived at them through what I consider a logical interpretation of all that I perceive, and my logic and perceptions won't change.
    Fair enough my good man...

    It was just a suggestion. I have actually arrived @ my own conclusions in a similar fashion to yours. But just remember LIFE is an ADVENTURE. I have found the most personal growth in figuring out the thing I could most NOT confront or deal with & then I have made myself go do or confront that thing. Barriers blow, viewpoints & perceptions change.

    Boy Scouts say BE PREPARED. You don't plan on accidents but it is always a good idea to travel with a spare tire or an atlas in case the GPS breaks. In case you are incorrect about life after death, you may want to bring a "roadmap" to help you out. You know, just in case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    The first one doesn't seem offensive to me, just an outsized Bible quotation, unless that is not a quote or the picture is something offensive, I can't tell what the picture is.

    The second one is an expression of belief, but also an attack on homosexuals, and I agree it is douchey.

    The third one I'm not sure what to make of it. What is the referenced scripture?

    The fourth one is clearly in very poor taste.

    Anyway, the clear difference is between the ones that ATTACK someone or something else, whereas others are just proponents of their belief.

    And the note in the subject billboard that the story of the virgin birth and the wise men is a myth and that this season we should celebrate reason is not an attack on anyone but simply a statement of their belief and they are being proponents for their belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachsparky View Post
    And the note in the subject billboard that the story of the virgin birth and the wise men is a myth and that this season we should celebrate reason is not an attack on anyone but simply a statement of their belief and they are being proponents for their belief.
    In the same way that the billboard saying homosexuality is wrong and is a sin simply states the beliefs? Nope, they're both attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Fair enough my good man...

    It was just a suggestion. I have actually arrived @ my own conclusions in a similar fashion to yours. But just remember LIFE is an ADVENTURE. I have found the most personal growth in figuring out the thing I could most NOT confront or deal with & then I have made myself go do or confront that thing. Barriers blow, viewpoints & perceptions change.

    Boy Scouts say BE PREPARED. You don't plan on accidents but it is always a good idea to travel with a spare tire or an atlas in case the GPS breaks. In case you are incorrect about life after death, you may want to bring a "roadmap" to help you out. You know, just in case...
    Your argument reminds me of one my brother-in-law tried to use on me when I was an atheist, I am not anymore. It went along the lines of if the story of heaven and hell is true, where would you rather be. Well the obvious answer is heaven, and he said well then you should believe in the Bible because what if you are wrong. It is an argument based on fear and the unknown. I do not believe, nor will I ever believe in fear and I will never allow the unknown to be the basis of decisions.

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