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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    No skipster,

    Common ground is when there is no American soldier on Middle Eastern soil and no sanctions against Middle Eastern countries and in return for that there are no terrorist attacks against America.
    Don't forget their version of common ground includes wiping Israel of the map.

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    Come on Big, admit that you hate it when OBL spouts his warped religious views.

    You love to try to show that we somehow deserve terrorist attacks because we force capitalism on the rest of the world.

    Just call it what it is...religious fanaticism.

    They hate us because we stand by Israel and we are infidels.

    Our freedom offers too many temptations for the fundamental tastes.

    They hate us because we don't follow their strict religious beliefs. End of story.

    With the internet, TV and other media outlets, our "despicable" culture is rubbing up against theirs and they resent it.

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    Show me where Bin Laden says these exact words "Convert or be killed".

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    The truth is America and other countries are making them flushed with money by buying their oil. With money they will always have militias that will fight for their way of life. You can accept it or not. What you and skipster are doing is you think just because Ameica has superior military that it can dictate the rules. What if the situation were reversed and Bin laden had the big bomb and not you? You would gladly accept to leave Middle East alone.

    In this case a country like Russia is the real saint. It doesn’t give money to Saudis and others to make them rich and promote their religion because a country like Russia has its own oil. This is a situation that has no clear answer. Kill all or subdue to their demands. In either case the West will lose face as a moral region of the World. I hate to be the pessimist but that is just the way I see it.

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    Are you saying that money is part of the problem in the MIddle East? Are you suggesting that if we embargoed the Middle East, like we are doing to Cuba, that Islamic terrorists would not bother us? Haven't you said that we SHOULD open up trade with Cuba so we don't hold them back and keep them in repressed conditions? But, here, you are telling us that the Middle East has too much money. Just how much money do you think the Muiddle East should have?

    How does your theory work in Dubai? Dubai has helped the US to fight terrorism. Dubai has a very capitalistic economy, is still very muslim, and thrives. If money fuels terrorism, why aren't we being attacked by terrorists from Dubai? These guys have helped the US, fought against terrorism, are successful capitalists, and are devout muslims.

    Your case is falling apart.

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    How do you know Dubai is not helping terrorists?

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    How do I know that you or anyone else is or is not helping terrorists?

    You still haven't answered any of the questions asked of you.

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    Cuba hasn't done anything wrong that warrants an embargo. They have a communist system. So does China. America buys many goods from them. Chavez from Venezuela is best friends with Castro and yet America buys oil there. Embargo on Cuba is total crap. Cuba has never attacked anyone.

    What I am saying is that America can't afford to stop buying oil from certain countries that promote terrorism in one way or another. America needs Saudi Arabia much more than Saudi Arabia needs America. Saudi Arabia can always sell oil to other countries.

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    Remember that America buys very little from other countries. Most of the oil in this country is bought by private entities. The government only buys for the strategic reserve, so America buys very little in relation to the whole. Let's also not forget that the largest supplier of oil to the US is Canada, not Saudi Arabia. I believe that Saudi Arabia only accounts for 11% of the oil refined in the US. Don't quote me on that, but check me on that.

    But, what's your point? What can't RoyalDutch Shell buy oil from whomever it wants? What if all US companies were to stop buying oil from the Middle East? Would you complain about the high gas prices? Would you complain thatthe US is putting thoe poor people into poverty? WOuld you complain that big business and big oil are conspiring to keep the Middle East in poverty?

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