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    Default Challenge for Lkwdsteve on capitalism being favorable for humans

    I decided to examine the purest factor of appropriatness of capitalism to human nature, which is the health of the people. Interestingly the beacons of capitalism like England and USA don't rank top 10 on the longest healthy living. Japan is number 1 but that does not mean much to me since Japan has been very protective of its culture and its diet regardless of wealth.

    Interestingly most of the top 10 countries are not that big on pure capitalism and have strong social services. What is even more, a really impoverished country like Cuba has almost similar length of healthy living to that of USA which means that physically speaking living in a well developed capitalist country doesn't guarantee superior health to that of a poor communist country.

    http://www.who.int/inf-pr-2000/en/pr2000-life.html

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    Default Re: Challenge for Lkwdsteve on capitalism being favorable for humans

    Another interesting study found that top 10 countries where people consider themselves the most happy and satisfied are among the least capitalist.

    http://thehappinessshow.com/HappiestCountries.htm

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    Big, number 1 on that list (under the subjective well being list and number 5 on the happy,happy,joy,joy list) is Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is not a country. It is a dependent territory of the United States. Three times the citizens of Puerto Rico have voted down referendums to become independent and have chosen to remain a part of the US.

    The study is flawed!

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    Default Re: Challenge for Lkwdsteve on capitalism being favorable for humans

    Puerto Rico is a country since their athletes compete at World Championships for Puerto Rico.

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    Big, no country on the face of the earth reconizes Puerto Rico as a country. Heck, even the majority of Puerto Ricans do not want to be an independent nation.

    It doesn't matter though. I was just upping my happiness quotient by having some fun with you in case those pollsters ever come knocking at my door asking me just how happy I am.
    Last edited by hardcore; 09-04-2007 at 12:08 AM.

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    Hmmm. Well, am I the guy to ask this question of?

    I've expressed concern in the past about the disproportionate influence that super-sized corporations have on both markets and politics. So I have an open mind to tweaking "capitalism".

    At any rate, it seems to me that your dismissal of Japan as an example is wrong. Japan is evidence that perhaps the health of peoples is independent of economic systems.

    A lot of questions are touched on. Freedom vs. health. Freedom vs. totalitarianism. Entitlements, how to administer and how much. Wealth inequalities. Poverty.

    I'm guessing you directed this at me because of my statement that communism is against human nature, because of our (posited by me) inate sense of ownership.

    Is this freedom and mobility and reward (or merit) vs. health and happiness and equality?

    Would the perfect system have all six? Communism ain't it. Socialism is still in the experimental stage.

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    Default Re: Challenge for Lkwdsteve on capitalism being favorable for humans

    As the say, figures lie and liars figure. Something like life expectancy is easy to measure but difficult to explain. America has a huge illegal immigrant population and a very violent under class, compare this to Japan or any other country with a higher LE. Does Japan have the same socio-economic factors as the united States of America?

    No.

    It's socio-economic factors.

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