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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I certainly don't have the answers to all questions, but why not have dogs sniffing people for explosives and have armed agents on each plane, along with regular metal detectors and pat downs? Like I have said earlier, other countries don't use the same tactics, yet we all have to fly home from these countries. Why do Americans seem okay to board a plane in Europe without being felt up on their return flight, but do think they need to go through it here?
    Good question about the dogs. I think the main threats to airline safety are bombs and guns. Anything else is not deadly enough to stop being overwhelmed by passengers. Metal detectors should catch guns and can't dogs be trained to detect explosives. Almost everybody has had their crotch sniffed up by a dog without major trauma.

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    Are we any safer then we were before 9/11?
    I tend to believe the security measures employed at the airports does make the flying public safer than pre 9-11 or at the least equally as safe. I highly doubt is has made us more vulnerable nor has it been a waste of time.

    The terrorist act of 9-11 had about as profound change on American lives as Pearl Harbor. Both ushered in a new era signaling to us as well as the world that we are not untouchable and that evil does exist on this planet daring enough to attack us internally as well as externally. Both events exposed our weaknesses and changed American's way of life and has made us rethink our approach to personal and national security. World and domestic terrorism/crime is a dynamic environment that requires constant proactive vigilance.

    If you feel we are not, what is your evidence that heightened airport security is actually the unfortunate corollary of our lack of safety?
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    What I am saying is that statistics are the same. The NEW measures haven't done anything to protect us physically but maybe in our minds. All they have doen is gotten us to agree to a little more to be sheep & also make some people like Chernoff & Chopra a lot of money.

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    I just wonder if those in power are just laughing at us, as we take our shoes and belts off, put our lap tops in a separate container, limit the size of our shampoo bottles, and submit to having someone feel us up, etc.?

    One guy tries to sneek a bomb on in his shoe and the rest of us, for eternity, have to take our shoes off? Am I the only one who thinks that it's all getting a bit absurd?

    Are we all really that dumb to think that the type of people who pulled off the 9/11 attacks aren't smart enough to study our current safety measures, and find the weaknesses?

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    R.I.P. Cyrano and Roxanne.

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    Everyone should wear this as a team the next time we fly...

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    I've went through security three times in the last three weeks. One flight was even the afternoon before Thanksgiving and the lines moved the quickest I've experienced in some time. In all three trips I only noticed one person hand searched which was quick and unremarkable. MSP has six new scanners and I haven't noticed a negative impact. The public was cooperative and the TSA workers respectful and pleasant.

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    They weren't wearing THE SHIRT...

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    Woman arrested at ABIA after refusing enhanced pat down | kvue.com | Austin, Texas (LINK)

    Early Wednesday morning, a computer glitch shut down a security checkpoint for a couple of hours at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport. The line snaked out the door as many travelers waited for more than an hour and some missed their flights. One of the first people in line after that shutdown never made it through. She was arrested and banned from the airport.

    Claire Hirschkind, 56, who says she is a rape victim and who has a pacemaker-type device implanted in her chest, says her constitutional rights were violated. She says she never broke any laws. But the Transportation Security Administration disagrees.

    Hirschkind was hoping to spend Christmas with friends in California, but she never made it past the security checkpoint.

    "I can't go through because I have the equivalent of a pacemaker in me," she said.

    Hirschkind said because of the device in her body, she was led to a female TSA employee and three Austin police officers. She says she was told she was going to be patted down.

    "I turned to the police officer and said, 'I have given no due cause to give up my constitutional rights. You can wand me,'" and they said, 'No, you have to do this,'" she said.

    Hirschkind agreed to the pat down, but on one condition.
    "I told them, 'No, I'm not going to have my breasts felt,' and she said, 'Yes, you are,'" said Hirschkind.

    When Hirschkind refused, she says that "the police actually pushed me to the floor, (and) handcuffed me. I was crying by then. They drug me 25 yards across the floor in front of the whole security."

    An ABIA spokesman says it is TSA policy that anyone activating a security alarm has two options. One is to opt out and not fly, and the other option is to subject themselves to an enhanced pat down. Hirschkind refused both and was arrested.

    Other travelers KVUE talked to say they empathize with Hirschkind, but the law is the law.

    "I understand her side of it, and their side as well, but it is for our protection so I have no problems with it," said Gwen Washington, who lives in Killeen.
    "It's unfortunate that that happened and she didn't get to fly home, but it makes me feel a little safer," said Emily Protine.

    The TSA did release a statement Wednesday that said in part, "Our officers are trained to treat all passengers with dignity and respect. Security is not optional."

    The TSA says less than three percent of travelers get a pat-down.

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