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    Racism is a card that the ELITIST media use to create divergence amongst the "have nots." While it exists, what is more prevalent is the Corporatocracy's attitude that they will hoard all the power & money & resources and keep us "little folk" in the dark fighting each other. In this manner, people will never unify to fight the REAL enemy to our liberty & freedom. Anywhere, where people can be divided, (socially, racially, financially, etc) the Elite will put those "differences" under the magnifying glass & inflame them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Racism is a card that the ELITIST media use to create divergence amongst the "have nots." While it exists, what is more prevalent is the Corporatocracy's attitude that they will hoard all the power & money & resources and keep us "little folk" in the dark fighting each other. In this manner, people will never unify to fight the REAL enemy to our liberty & freedom. Anywhere, where people can be divided, (socially, racially, financially, etc) the Elite will put those "differences" under the magnifying glass & inflame them.
    I could hear the "whoosh" as that post went over my head. Are you saying that media (Jackson, Sharpton, MSNBC) create the perception of racism? If so, I agree. The corporate hate that is put in people's mind through the media is true, too. Although, I would argue that it starts in college. Most colleges teach that sort of stuff. I have discussions with my kids when they come home all the time, about stuff like that. They are being taught that corporations are bad, yet they want them to work hard to move up in a corporation just to give their money to some lazy slug who has been on welfare their entire life. Crazy stuff!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    The bottom line is that Olbermann signed a contract that prohibited contributions. Hannity did not. Yet, Fox was wise enough not to have Hannity cover breaking news. Once you cross that line, you become a reporter instead of an opinion based talk show host.

    But, what I will find interesting, is if they bring him back. He clearly breached his contract, Juan Williams breached no contract. Juan, who is black, was fired. If Olbermann is not fired, will it be racism? Will Jesse and Al jump to Juan's aid? I'm betting that they won't because they think of Juan as a sell out for being on Fox in the first place. I can't wait to see how it plays out, though.
    If Olderman broke hso contract then there isno controversy... however to get work into a froth about how this shows how bias MSNBC is silly. Are you suggesting that this is a damning piece of evidence that he favors the Liberals? Of course he does, that is his role. This is "Dog bites Man" story, if he was found giving money to conservatives that would be a better story.

    juan Williams clearly broke one of NPR's policy which was something like "not expressing strong controversial personal opinions in public forums". I think NPR was silly to fire him, but it is their perogative to do so.

    I would not be surprise if in either case there was some office politics involved where their bosses did not like and found an excuse to fire them. Their workplace is no different than any other and there are always personality clashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Racism is a card that the ELITIST media use to create divergence amongst the "have nots." While it exists, what is more prevalent is the Corporatocracy's attitude that they will hoard all the power & money & resources and keep us "little folk" in the dark fighting each other. In this manner, people will never unify to fight the REAL enemy to our liberty & freedom. Anywhere, where people can be divided, (socially, racially, financially, etc) the Elite will put those "differences" under the magnifying glass & inflame them.
    As usual I think your opinions are way out there... It seems that you are saying that there is no racism and coprporations create the appearance of racism in a conspiracy to keep power. Of course there is racism and of course there are people who cry racism when there is none. People who cry racism no matter what are every bit as tirmesome as the people who cry about "playing the race card"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    If Olderman broke hso contract then there isno controversy... however to get work into a froth about how this shows how bias MSNBC is silly. Are you suggesting that this is a damning piece of evidence that he favors the Liberals? Of course he does, that is his role. This is "Dog bites Man" story, if he was found giving money to conservatives that would be a better story.

    juan Williams clearly broke one of NPR's policy which was something like "not expressing strong controversial personal opinions in public forums". I think NPR was silly to fire him, but it is their perogative to do so.

    I would not be surprise if in either case there was some office politics involved where their bosses did not like and found an excuse to fire them. Their workplace is no different than any other and there are always personality clashes.
    Juan Williams was hired to be a political opinion-type person. He gave his opinion on a different network and got fired from a PUBLICALLY FUNDED NETWORK. NPR only exists because of our tax dollars. He is allowed to have an opinion and signed no contract to the contrary. Now, they can fire him if they want, but they can't claim it was because of his opinion. Some tax payers differ in opinion than others on NPR, so what is the difference? NPR is supposed to be unbiased. Obviously, they are not. I not suprised that Jesse and AL didn't come to his aide because it isn't really about race to them. It is about an agenda.

    The same goes for the National Organization for Women. If they are really for protecting women, they would be offended about the attacks on Sara Palin and Michelle Bachmann. Instead, they say "No comment" everytime one of them is attacked, yet come to the aide of liberals like Hillary Clinton or any woman who wants an abortion. That organization doesn't care about women, they care about the advancement of liberalism.

    MADD is another bogus organization. If all they care about is drunk driving, then they should stick to that. Instead, they go against any person who might drink a beer legally or not. They are prohibitionists who want everyone to be a teetotaler. The liberal hypocrasy is getting stupid. I thought they were the people who are supposed to love and care for everyone. I guess it only matters if you are with their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Juan Williams was hired to be a political opinion-type person. He gave his opinion on a different network and got fired from a PUBLICALLY FUNDED NETWORK. NPR only exists because of our tax dollars. He is allowed to have an opinion and signed no contract to the contrary. Now, they can fire him if they want, but they can't claim it was because of his opinion. Some tax payers differ in opinion than others on NPR, so what is the difference? NPR is supposed to be unbiased. Obviously, they are not. I not suprised that Jesse and AL didn't come to his aide because it isn't really about race to them. It is about an agenda.
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    NPR gets 6% of their funds from the government. My opinion is that they should refuse these dollars to take away any pressure from political types that they conform to their own agenda. They would exist without goverment funding.

    My understanding is that Williams broke the complany policy amd was fired for.

    Maybe your bogeyman of AL and Jesse are not up in arms becasue their is no hint of racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I could hear the "whoosh" as that post went over my head. Are you saying that media (Jackson, Sharpton, MSNBC) create the perception of racism? If so, I agree. The corporate hate that is put in people's mind through the media is true, too. Although, I would argue that it starts in college. Most colleges teach that sort of stuff. I have discussions with my kids when they come home all the time, about stuff like that. They are being taught that corporations are bad, yet they want them to work hard to move up in a corporation just to give their money to some lazy slug who has been on welfare their entire life. Crazy stuff!!
    I am saying that the media does "it's best" to amplify our "differences" & get people fighting amongst themselves instead of unifying & fighting the Corporatocracy that is attempting to usurp our liberties & rights before our very eyes.

    I am saying that in most cases RACISM is inflamed. I am saying that it is a typical left wing/politically correct knee jerk response to use to attack people they don't agree with AND bury that opposing viewpoint under a wrath of hate & scorn. It is a PR slander move to call someone a RACIST.

    As a political TOOL the label of RACISM is a liberal equivalent of calling someone a communist/terrorist/anti-nationalist. In most cases it has nothing to do with the actual situation & just further blinds people to how they are being manipulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    As usual I think your opinions are way out there... It seems that you are saying that there is no racism and corporations create the appearance of racism in a conspiracy to keep power. Of course there is racism and of course there are people who cry racism when there is none. People who cry racism no matter what are every bit as tiresome as the people who cry about "playing the race card"
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    you obviously failed to read my post. I don't know whether it was on purpose or ajust a mistake but I say in my post clearly:

    Racism is a card that the ELITIST media use to create divergence amongst the "have nots." While it, (racism) exists, what is more prevalent is the Corporatocracy's attitude that they will hoard all the power & money & resources and keep us "little folk" in the dark fighting each other.
    Behind every conflict is a hidden 3rd party inflaming that conflict. Find that hidden conflict enabler & suddenly you can resolve your conflict more easily. Our country has been growing in conflict for the past 15 years. The media inflames it. Controversy SELLS. People tune it to watch the horrible & sad. Good news & solutions don't sell. If you don't realize that go do a little homework. Advertisers dictate editorial content. Investors dictate editorial content. The only news you get, is what they want you to hear. Don't believe me, try living outside of the USA sometime.

    You can think what you want about "my opinions" but but what I say I have learned from experience personally & directly. If you believe the stuff they are spoon-feeding you in the media, you are whistling past the graveyard...

    Sure racism exists but labeling someone a racist is just a typical PR slander job in most cases.

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    I just read that he has been reinstated. They got a petition going and it had 250,000 signatures, so he'll be back Tuesday.

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