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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    I am confused because I can't tell if Fox has high rating compared to other cable news shows or if it has high rating compared to the "real" netwroks. Since 85-90% of households have access to Fox I don't see why it would be compared to cable news,
    They have far less viewers than the big three NBC, ABC and CBS. Fox news has 2million viewers compared to 20 million or the big three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    I am confused because I can't tell if Fox has high rating compared to other cable news shows or if it has high rating compared to the "real" netwroks. Since 85-90% of households have access to Fox I don't see why it would be compared to cable news,
    FNC, MSNBC are on slightly different packages and are not in nearly as many homes as basic cable news channels like FOX, NBC, and CBS.

    I tried tracking down the number of homes FNC is in compared to FOX/CBS/NBC but I couldn't seem to find any.
    Last edited by Schlottke; 11-07-2010 at 01:21 PM.

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    Disclaimer: This post is NOT designed to create a firestorm of rage; don't take it too seriously or personally.

    I'm one who loves some of MSNBC's programming. Yes, I agree that their "news" sucks, but if it's news that I'm looking for I go to other sources anyway.

    However, the "big three" evening programs, for me, are second to none: Olbermann, Maddow, and O'Donnell. I think that it's easy to paint all news, aside from Fixed Noise, as "liberal, but that's always been shortsighted. Take it from me: The only place where I truly find tv news stories that appeal to left leaning folks is on these three shows. A true television liberal media would not be silent on the stories that these three report nightly.

    As but one recent example, I heard ZERO tv news networks do a story on Palodino's emails. I learned of it on Olbermann's show, and had he not covered it, it would not have appeared anywhere on television news.

    So, yes, MSNBC is a terrible news source, but for left leaning news and journalism, their nightly programs are fantastic.

    (Again, NOT designed to drive people into blind rages)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    FNC, MSNBC are on slightly different packages and are not in nearly as many homes as basic cable news channels like FOX, NBC, and CBS.

    I tried tracking down the number of homes FNC is in compared to FOX/CBS/NBC but I couldn't seem to find any.
    I didn't even realize Fox had a competely different channel devoted completely to news.

    Does the regular Fox channel have a nightly news show like the big networks?

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    The regular FOX channel only has LOCAL FOX news. There is NO National News program like there is on ABC, CBS or NBC. FOX NEWS is a CABLE station just like MSNBC or CNBC. Interestingly enough ABC & CBS have more Entertainment Cable channels but NO News Cable channels.

    Btw, if you watch cable news you will find that MSNBC IS decidedly liberal while CNBC is more business oriented & decidedly more conservative then MSNBC. CNBC was created to compete with Bloomberg TV & MSNBC was created to compete with CNN.

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    ODH, Just how short is your memory anyway?

    Need I remind you that I was replying to your inaccurate statement about FOX being behind NBC, ABC & CBS????
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    Why would you compare Fox only against over cable news shows..surely the large majority of American households have access to Fox and they chose to major the major traditional networks.

    So doesn't your logic for why Fox beats MSNBC and CNN hold true for ABC, NBC and CBS?
    They just aren't as biased in their reporting, they don't chastise people and they don't call Americans dumb. The reason they get a bad rap is because of their huge ratings, not because of their content
    You make a false statement about FOX and I correct it and you turn that around to claim that I am just crowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tight-Waist View Post
    ODH, Just how short is your memory anyway?

    Need I remind you that I was replying to your inaccurate statement about FOX being behind NBC, ABC & CBS????


    You make a false statement about FOX and I correct it and you turn that around to claim that I am just crowing.
    I am not sure what you are talking about, so appearantly my memory is very short.
    I really didn't understand that there was a seperate Fox News channel, now that I think about it seems rather obvious.
    It also seems that the big networks get ratings on their nightly news tha far surpass those of FNC even though you point out that Fox won the ratingson election night.
    Here is another question - Do the big netwroks have non-stop election coverage like the news channels do?

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    As a news source FOX is about as far right as CNN, ABC, NBC & CBS are far left. (But yes there are some CNN reporters that hew a very liberal line.)

    The Fox news commentary however is undeniably right and probably to the same degree as CNN's commentary is to the left. MSNBC's commentary exceeds all other sources on stridency.

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    If you happen upon FOX BUSINESS NEWS, (which always hidden @ channel 383 or something on cable or direct tv) you will actually find a decidedly more Libertarian viewpoint on shows such as Judge Napolitano.

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