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    Charles Krauthammer: "The Was No Mandate in Tuesdays Election Results"
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    There was definitely no mandate for a certain political party. The only mandate that could be seen from all of this is that Americans are sick of politicians and their "holier than thou" attitudes. If neither party gets it now, then expect even bigger changes in 2012.

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    It is hardly unusual for media companies to support candidates and political parties. General Electric, which owns NBC, has given $245,000 to the Democratic governors and $205,000 to the Republican governors since last year.
    Disney, which owns ABC, donated $20,000 to committees associated with Republicans and $11,000 to Democratic committees. CBS gave $13,000 to Democratic PACs and $1,000 to Republican ones.

    That is right from the link you provided. Surely you can see the difference in a company giving money as opposed to someone who is supposed to be an unbiased news journalist. Obviously even MSNBC can see the difference.
    Done went right over my head! Thanks for pointing that out! I now think that I get it!

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    Why would you compare Fox only against over cable news shows..surely the large majority of American households have access to Fox and they chose to major the major traditional networks.

    So doesn't your logic for why Fox beats MSNBC and CNN hold true for ABC, NBC and CBS?
    They just aren't as biased in their reporting, they don't chastise people and they don't call Americans dumb. The reason they get a bad rap is because of their huge ratings, not because of their content
    Actually... FOX had the highest election night ratings of ALL, yes thats right, ALL networks.

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    Actually... FOX had the highest election night ratings of ALL, yes thats right, ALL networks.
    I looked it up and found that it is reported that 85-90% of US households have cable or satellite. So using your breakdowns Fox should have the 40% conservative viewers locked up and most of the 40% moderates and MSNBC,CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS should be battling over the 20% liberal viewers. Fox should have triple the ratings of any other network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    I looked it up and found that it is reported that 85-90% of US households have cable or satellite. So using your breakdowns Fox should have the 40% conservative viewers locked up and most of the 40% moderates and MSNBC,CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS should be battling over the 20% liberal viewers. Fox should have triple the ratings of any other network.
    Are you forgetting that there are people who just don't watch news at all? Based on the people who are actually watching the news, Fox is pretty much triple that of any other network. But, that really doesn't matter. The fact is, no one is watching the left wing stuff and it is because they are poorly ran. MSNBC made a horrible decision to have opinion journalists try to cover breaking news. They couldn't get out of their own way and the ratings proved it. Just because you might be liberal doesn't mean you have to try and defend every stupid thing other liberals do.

    I know it's cool to hate Fox, but there really is a reason that they have such high ratings. They are a better ran company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Are you forgetting that there are people who just don't watch news at all? Based on the people who are actually watching the news, Fox is pretty much triple that of any other network. But, that really doesn't matter. The fact is, no one is watching the left wing stuff and it is because they are poorly ran. MSNBC made a horrible decision to have opinion journalists try to cover breaking news. They couldn't get out of their own way and the ratings proved it. Just because you might be liberal doesn't mean you have to try and defend every stupid thing other liberals do.

    I know it's cool to hate Fox, but there really is a reason that they have such high ratings. They are a better ran company.
    I don't hate Fox or feel a need to defend MSNBC, I don't watch any TV news.
    I am just questioning why conservatives crow about Fox's high ratings and use them as proof either to show conservative America truly is or how Fox is a great network when they are jsut looking at cable news rating, which is where I assume Fox is triple any other [cable] network.

    Once Fox triples the rating of all networks then I'll buy yor argument.

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    Since you don't watch any of them, I can see your confusion. If you would watch them, you could see how bad of a company MSNBC is. I really don't think it reflects who is conservative or liberal. It reflects how bad MSNBC is. Even liberals watch Fox because of how bad they suck. So, yes, the Fox ratings are higher, but I think it is because of a better station, not an agenda.

    I might not have made that point clear in my earlier posts. I appologize for the confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Since you don't watch any of them, I can see your confusion. If you would watch them, you could see how bad of a company MSNBC is. I really don't think it reflects who is conservative or liberal. It reflects how bad MSNBC is. Even liberals watch Fox because of how bad they suck. So, yes, the Fox ratings are higher, but I think it is because of a better station, not an agenda.

    I might not have made that point clear in my earlier posts. I appologize for the confusion.
    I am confused because I can't tell if Fox has high rating compared to other cable news shows or if it has high rating compared to the "real" netwroks. Since 85-90% of households have access to Fox I don't see why it would be compared to cable news,

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