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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    I assume you are talking about healthcare and don't know what the poll numbers are, but I doubt the public overwhelmingly opposes it. How amny people truly understand the bill?
    Pretty decisively actually...
    RCP Average 8/27 - 10/31 -- 40.1 51.3 Against/Oppose +11.2
    Rasmussen Reports* 10/30 - 10/31 1000 LV 36 58 Against/Oppose +22
    Pew/National Journal* 10/21 - 10/24 1006 A 41 51 Against/Oppose +10
    Rasmussen Reports* 10/22 - 10/23 1000 LV 42 53 Against/Oppose +11
    Associated Press/GfK 10/13 - 10/18 1501 A 40 45 Against/Oppose +5
    Rasmussen Reports* 10/16 - 10/17 1000 LV 40 55 Against/Oppose +15
    You're right, they dont know what all is in it and neither do those that voted to pass it and thats a big part of the reason the public rejects it.
    And btw... the more the public discovers about this boon doggle bill, the MORE they dislike it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    It is not the job of the left to listen to the message from conservatives. Becasue of the state of the economy, the Right has a good message and have been effective at getting it out.

    I don't think this this a big swing in the country towardd Republican ideals any more than the victories in 2006 & 2008 were mandates for Dems.
    This is exactly where we disagree. I think that the message of the people was not necessarily the message of just conservatives. Independants make the swings in elections and these independants weren't getting heard. Obama focused on things that were not a priority to most of the people in this nation, regardless of their politics. Republicans didn't have to get a message out about the economy. The lack of a paycheck sends it's own message. But instead of dealing with that problem, he dealt with healthcare and cap and tax and things like that. Most people don't want an unemployment extension, they want a job. Hopefully he got the message last night, that it isn't about party politics, it's about jobs.

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    Wow, MSNBC really did go off the rails: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...alyptic-night/

    No wonder no one watches that network. It's like watching a bunch of elitist dunces.

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    Your issue may be governemnt spending, but I think that the real issue for the "masses" is the economy.
    I am no economic genius, by any means. But, I think the two of those go hand in hand. When the economy is down, spend less. That's what everyday people have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    Your issue may be governemnt spending, but I think that the real issue for the "masses" is the economy.
    When the economy was still growing, how many people were in the streets shouting about governemnt spending during the Bush years, which included passing a hugely expensive entitlement in the Medicare Drug Benefit?
    I don't think we're that far off though. My opinion is that the huge increase in spending has impacted the economy negatively, and businesses are worried about future tax increases, slackening demand, etc., which is impacting whether they hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    I assume you are talking about healthcare and don't know what the poll numbers are, but I doubt the public overwhelmingly opposes it. How amny people truly understand the bill?
    I think a lot of people understand the bill better than the members of the Senate and the House, which is one of the reasons for the major changes last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    No wonder no one watches that network. It's like watching a bunch of elitist dunces.
    Thanks for the link, but I couldn't even get through all of them. That's exactly why I turned the channel last night. People complain about Fox News, but they are no where near this level of partisanship. And the ratings reflect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I am no economic genius, by any means. But, I think the two of those go hand in hand. When the economy is down, spend less. That's what everyday people have to do.
    Most non-partisan economists disagree with you. You have a right to disagree with them and I know there are well respected economists that feel differently as well.
    Principles that make sense for your own finances don't always work on a macro-economic scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Thanks for the link, but I couldn't even get through all of them. That's exactly why I turned the channel last night. People complain about Fox News, but they are no where near this level of partisanship. And the ratings reflect that.
    I don't watch either channel, but I think it is amusingthat you think the MSNBC's ratings are low becasue they are too partisan. People like to get their news coverage from sources that they agree with.
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