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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    Eisenhower, Nixon, and Carter also defeated incumbents in that time.

    By my count, in the past 70 years there have been 5 1-term presidents (Truman, Johnson, Ford, Carter, Bush I), 6 2-term presidents (Rosevelt, Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Bush II) and 1 who died before he could run for re-election. Seems to me like getting re-elected is pretty much a toss-up.
    Neither Ike nor Nixon beat incumbants. Truman served almost all of FDR's 4th term and one of his own. He was written off when he won on his own in 1948(remember him holding up the Chicago Tribune with the headline: "Dewey Wins"??). Ike beat Adlai STevenson, a senator from Illinois. Nixon beat Humphry. LBJ filled in for JFK and won on his own in 1964 over Barry Goldwater the senator from Arizona(leading to one add that said: "IN your heart, you know he's right" and one that wasn't brodcast: "In your guts, you know he's nuts."
    Ok history students: here's your history lesson: FDR knocked off incumbant Hoover and serve 3 full terms and part of a 4th. Truman served almost 2 terms and retired; Ike serve 2 terms and retired; JFK served less than 3 years after beating Nixon, and LBJ served part of JFK's term and one on his own and retired; Nixon served part of two terms and resigned after beating Humprey and McGovern; Carter beat teh incumbant Ford who filled in for Nixon; RR beat incumbant Carter and served 2 terms; Bush won and then loss his second shot based upon: "Read my lips, no new taxes" and the uprising lead by Ross Perot who ran a huge campaign for a 3rd party candidate. You guys are probably old enough to remember the rest.
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    So outside of media creation Palin, who does the GOP think will lead them to defeat Obama in 2 years?

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    I already told you Eric Cantor

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLV View Post
    Neither Ike nor Nixon beat incumbants. Truman served almost all of FDR's 4th term and one of his own. He was written off when he won on his own in 1948(remember him holding up the Chicago Tribune with the headline: "Dewey Wins"??). Ike beat Adlai STevenson, a senator from Illinois. Nixon beat Humphry. LBJ filled in for JFK and won on his own in 1964 over Barry Goldwater the senator from Arizona(leading to one add that said: "IN your heart, you know he's right" and one that wasn't brodcast: "In your guts, you know he's nuts."
    Ok history students: here's your history lesson: FDR knocked off incumbant Hoover and serve 3 full terms and part of a 4th. Truman served almost 2 terms and retired; Ike serve 2 terms and retired; JFK served less than 3 years after beating Nixon, and LBJ served part of JFK's term and one on his own and retired; Nixon served part of two terms and resigned after beating Humprey and McGovern; Carter beat teh incumbant Ford who filled in for Nixon; RR beat incumbant Carter and served 2 terms; Bush won and then loss his second shot based upon: "Read my lips, no new taxes" and the uprising lead by Ross Perot who ran a huge campaign for a 3rd party candidate. You guys are probably old enough to remember the rest.
    Thanks, I hadn't caught that from the 3 other people who'd already corrected me.
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    What about Jim Demint? I've been hearing a lot about him lately, but don't know if he's said he would make a run. Anyone know?

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    I'm starting to lean towards Paul Ryan. I've become more aware of him over the last year or so, and I saw him recently on CNBC talking about a variety of economic issues. I need to check out his platform to be sure that he's not too socially conservative. If he's a social liberal, I'll be ready to fondle him like a TSA screener.

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    Ryan is going to present the GOP response this evening, should be interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    I'm starting to lean towards Paul Ryan. I've become more aware of him over the last year or so, and I saw him recently on CNBC talking about a variety of economic issues. I need to check out his platform to be sure that he's not too socially conservative. If he's a social liberal, I'll be ready to fondle him like a TSA screener.

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    Pretty interesting GOP odds: Mark Halperin Weighs the GOP Odds - TIME

    It's very early in the race, but Pawlenty's atrocious performance at Republican debate will probably hurt his ability to raise money. Hell, Bachmann looked more prepared for the big stage than he did which was a big surprise. She's too conservative to win the primary but I wouldn't be shocked if she ends up as the VP nominee. I don't think that Paul Ryan will get in the race, probably angling for 2016 if anything, and even if he did the Ryan Plan has not been sold well to voters and without the senior vote he doesn't have a chance. Rick Perry looks like a 50/50 or better shot to enter and he might be a real challenge early on, though I doubt he has the appeal outside the south to win. The Mormons won't be going to Iowa, which has becoming increasingly irrelevant, so the race will really begin in New Hampshire IMO.

    Personally this is the candidate I'll be voting for: Jonathon Sharkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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