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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    Just got back, wound up with a pretty split ticket. Voted for 4 Dem's for local positions and 4 Rep's.

    Went Libertarian for both Senator and Congress.
    Don't you think your Libertartian votes, while making a statement, were wasted when they could have been used to help the Rep. or Dem. candidate who best represented your views?
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    I don't think either the Dem or the Rep nominee for Senate or Congress represented my views.

    Personally I'd like to see the Dems lose their super majority so I wasn't going to vote for Chris Coons or John Carney. However when the Republican candidates in DE were Christine "I'm not a witch, I'm you" O'Donnell, or Glen "Separation of church and state comes from the Nazis" Uruquhart, I wasn't going to vote for them either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    My opinions are often overly simplistic, but I am turned off by extreme points of view from either side that tend to polarize people rather than to find common ground.
    As an aside, did any of you hear Jon Stewart's closing speech at the Oct. 30 rally? In it, he mentions how even though people in D.C and on cable tv are at odds with each other, everyday Americans of all different political, racial and ethnic beliefs manage to cooperate and respect each other without any effort in their daily lives. It's a really good speech:


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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I don't think either the Dem or the Rep nominee for Senate or Congress represented my views.

    Personally I'd like to see the Dems lose their super majority so I wasn't going to vote for Chris Coons or John Carney. However when the Republican candidates in DE were Christine "I'm not a witch, I'm you" O'Donnell, or Glen "Separation of church and state comes from the Nazis" Uruquhart, I wasn't going to vote for them either.
    Good rationale. Criticism withdrawn.
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    See my answers below....hope it answers your questions if not i will try to expand

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    Thanks, Chance. Good answer.

    Two points:

    1. If the Tea Party message isn't all that far right, do people like Glen Beck, Sarah Palin, and others who are polarizing influences hurt or help the party?

    I'm not a very big fan of Palin ,althought i don't think she is as bad as she is made out to be, that being said i don't think she hurts that much. I think that she may scare off some fence sitters with her "Christian Right" mentality, but think most people already had their mind made up. I keep saying "Christian Right" as a bad thing...i'm not trying to say it is bad as i am a Christian but i am refering to those who take it too far (my opinion).

    To be honest i'm that familiar with Beck so can't really speak to him.


    2. Snackem objected to criticism of the GOP that is 30 years old, yet you like that the Tea Party represents old school Republican values. Can't have it both ways. Who's right?

    Well of course i would say i'm right I think you could find idiotic statements from any party during any period of time especially when taken out of context....both parties do this. I like the old school Republican values around smaller government and less spending. The last 3-4 years of the Repblican controlled congress spent almost as bad as Dems. That being said i like the old school Dem values more than i do today's democratic party. Not sure that really answers your question, if not i will try later on ...lol


    . . . and a third point afterthought: If i could find a fiscal conservative, strong defense minded, but not driven by religion (Christian Right)....ie pro gay marriage, pro choice, I'd be happy, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance174 View Post
    See my answers below....hope it answers your questions if not i will try to expand
    Regarding point 1, my impression of the Tea Party is that it is the semi-senile uncle at the Republican Thanksgiving dinner, whom everone wishes would just shut up and eat instead of constantly making embarassing remarks. While I may agree with some of their points, they are presented in a way that are over the top by people whom I find it very difficult to respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    You can be pro-defense and still close useless bases, eliminate weapons programs that are obsolete (or trending towards obsolescence), and change the composition of the military.

    Other than pro-defense, the qualities Chance listed above are all tenets of libertarianism.
    Your right you can be pro-defense and still make hard choices. I think people disagree with some of the choices....i have agreed with some and disagreed with some.

    I agree a lot with libertarians but side with the GOP as they are closer to my beliefs.

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    UNI Panthers...Because it's just right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    Regarding point 1, my impression of the Tea Party is that it is the semi-senile uncle at the Republican Thanksgiving dinner, whom everone wishes would just shut up and eat instead of constantly making embarassing remarks. While I may agree with some of their points, they are presented in a way that are over the top by people whom I find it very difficult to respect.
    i think you are right when you said "they are presented in a way". I believe this is a case of perception becoming reality. It sounds like you one of those who were on the fence and their involvement hurt the tea party cause. Like i said i am not a big fan of Palin but think she has gotten a bad rap in the media. In other words i don't think she is as contraversial or bad as the media makes her out to be. That being said i hope she does not run for office

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