I've been around these 3 forums for over 7 or 8 years but don't post often. I call it like I see them. I'd just as soon see Pelosi fall to the wayside but being a christian myself I certianly wouldn't make those types of comments about anyone. You can convey your point without degrading. Do I think she represents values I don't approve of, absolutely but what you said was uncalled for by someone who presents themself they way you do. Someone who doesn't present themself with the types of ideals you claim to have I wouldn't get as worked up about.