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    . . . according to eminent physicist Stephen Hawking

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    God did not create the universe, says Hawking
    By Michael Holden Michael Holden ? Thu Sep 2, 9:08 am ET


    LONDON (Reuters) ? God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.
    In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow, Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on Thursday.
    "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," Hawking writes.
    "It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."
    Hawking, 68, who won global recognition with his 1988 book "A Brief History of Time," an account of the origins of the universe, is renowned for his work on black holes, cosmology and quantum gravity.
    Since 1974, the scientist has worked on marrying the two cornerstones of modern physics -- Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, which concerns gravity and large-scale phenomena, and quantum theory, which covers subatomic particles.
    His latest comments suggest he has broken away from previous views he has expressed on religion. Previously, he wrote that the laws of physics meant it was simply not necessary to believe that God had intervened in the Big Bang.
    He wrote in A Brief History ... "If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for then we should know the mind of God."
    In his latest book, he said the 1992 discovery of a planet orbiting another star other than the Sun helped deconstruct the view of the father of physics Isaac Newton that the universe could not have arisen out of chaos but was created by God.
    "That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions -- the single Sun, the lucky combination of Earth-Sun distance and solar mass, far less remarkable, and far less compelling evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings," he writes.
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    From that review I don't quite understand what Hawkings is getting at. How is spontaneous creation supposed to work? How does the law of gravity prove- or disprove- anything about religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    From that review I don't quite understand what Hawkings is getting at. How is spontaneous creation supposed to work? How does the law of gravity prove- or disprove- anything about religion?
    I guess we'll have to read the book: The Grand Design.
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    I guess we'll have to read the book: The Grand Design.
    Hopefully Hawking will do a books on tape version.

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    Hopefully Hawking will do a books on tape version.
    That he reads aloud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    That he reads aloud.
    That's what I was getting at - I might have been a little too subtle with the joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    that he reads aloud.
    rotflmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I guess we'll have to read the book: The Grand Design.
    I plan on getting this book.
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    EVERY SINGLE book I've read by Hawking has leaned PRO-GOD(much as Einstein ) and every single book I've read by Hawking has put me to sleep-the material he works with is understandable by 1/2 dozen humans on the planet ....

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