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    Just got done watching this program for the second time. It is showing again tonight at 10:00 central. Not to toot my own horn, but fill me in on how these folks in the program, ideologically, differ from they typical American, and more specifically, what you are hearing on AM radio, the tea bag party movement, and Fixed Noise on a daily basis.

    Again, aside from the fact that one group will openly say they are going to kick your head in, while the others "condemn" violence, you'll see few differences in their beliefs in immigration, "illegal" immigration, gays, liberals, and the government.


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    Last edited by ban basketball; 07-14-2010 at 08:13 PM.
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  2. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by LkwdSteve View Post
    The kind of data I worked with allowed me to say that racism is alive and well in the institutions of banking, law, real estate and the criminal justice system in Greater Cleveland. Nowhere in those previous discussions did I use the term "typical", point fingers, or use the word "them". I offered facts and probabilities based on those facts. You are definitely stereotyping with your conception of a "typical" (read "white") citizen. You offer some pretty sweeping generalizations. That's a prime recipe for stereotyping. I suppose you reinforce these (IMO) misguided views continually/repeatedly by teaching them.

    Am I a typical Amercan? I think so. Yet I measure up (or is it measure down?) in only two of your four categories. I question affimative action. I felt all along that Obama was too inexperienced for the office. BUT, I also felt McCain was much too hypocritical. That why I voted for Ralph Nader who at least spoke for me on a couple of issues of importance to me (like the dangers of large corporations). I wonder how this BP thing would have gone down if Nader was president.

    Sincerely,

    LkwdSteve, typical American citizen.
    Apparently missed my earlier statement, eh, Rush? "Typical," as in the majority. That is what we mean in the social sciences by "typical." If the majority of people believe this way, we are comfortable in saying that this view or behavior is "typical." Need any further edurcation?

    Care to bet on the numbers that I offered? We can do real cash; I have a paypal account.

    However, I'm a bit afraid, as I think that you may beat me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    lol... I'd be more concerned with the people who openly admit to being racist than some TV personalities that may or may not pretend it doesn't exist. Its like saying you're more worried about people who pretend the holocaust didn't exist than the guys who actually ran the camps.
    You're not worried about the folks who harbor and practice prejudiced behavior and are not aware that they are doing it? Really? I have news for you: That is what the edurcational system is focusing on today; getting people to recognize that we all have it and how we can then keep it from happening.

    Trust me: on a daily basis I see and hear full blown racism by people who will tell you in the same breath that they are not racist, and that it's only those hood wearing guys in white that are. Oddly enough, they're also the ones telling you how minorities "make up race issues."
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  4. #49

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    NOW, I'm officially over and out.

    Gee, those dirty nasty race issues that people can't seem to acknowledge. What a bad guy I am again, eh, folks?
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  5. #50

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    Yes, to clarify again: "typical" refers to the majority of people. As in medicine, "it is a typical case."
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  6. #51

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    I'm sure Steve will be quite surprised to find himself compared to Rush Limbaugh in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I'm sure Steve will be quite surprised to find himself compared to Rush Limbaugh in this thread.
    Not surprised at all. BanB stereotypes, though he (apparently) doesn't realize it.

    I do remember his shock when I revealed that I voted for John Kerry in 05, a guy I still admire. I didn't vote in 01. How could anyone vote for Bush and I detested that wimp Al Gore. Hillary was my gal (she ran all over then VP Gore when she was first lady), and Nader became the the only substitute as insufficient as that was. I would have sooner voted for Condi the Cold than John McCain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    You're not worried about the folks who harbor and practice prejudiced behavior and are not aware that they are doing it? Really? I have news for you: That is what the edurcational system is focusing on today; getting people to recognize that we all have it and how we can then keep it from happening.

    Trust me: on a daily basis I see and hear full blown racism by people who will tell you in the same breath that they are not racist, and that it's only those hood wearing guys in white that are. Oddly enough, they're also the ones telling you how minorities "make up race issues."
    I never said I wasn't worried about them. You said "However, here's the key: they [Black Panthers] don't deny it [being racist]. It is those who deny it and fail to recognize that racism is real that should be our primary concern."

    and then I said I'd be more concerned with the people who openly admit to being racist than some TV personalities that may or may not pretend it doesn't exist. Its like saying you're more worried about people who pretend the holocaust didn't exist than the guys who actually ran the camps.

  9. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by LkwdSteve View Post
    Not surprised at all. BanB stereotypes, though he (apparently) doesn't realize it.
    Those are the posters that should be our primary concern.
    Last edited by Schlottke; 07-14-2010 at 09:41 PM.

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