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    I hear a lot about how Jesse Jackson apparently "makes up race issues." Myself, as a person who has, in part, "made his money off of race issues," I cannot think of one solitary instance where he "made up a race issue." If people are referring to Tawanna Brawley (sp?), I don't believe Jackson was part of the front lines in that issue, but I could be wrong. If he was, then that is one race issue that he has "made up."

    Aside from the constant recitation of this, does anyone know of specific instances where he "made up race issues?" Furthermore, if we want to characterize him as a guy who primarily "makes up race issues" (because, and as Sean McVeigh Hannity reminds us, discrimination and prejudice no longer exists since the election of President Obama), could we also list some race issues that he did not "make up" and were, in fact, real?

    And, yes, the Black Panther Party is a racist organization (and even more scary, they may be communists too). However, here's the key: they don't deny it. It is those who deny it and fail to recognize that racism is real that should be our primary concern.
    Last edited by ban basketball; 07-13-2010 at 05:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    I strongly recommend that you don't talk about race with Ban. It won't end with hugs and smiles.
    No need to worry about me. I've got bigger fish to fry these days. I learned long ago that in an anonymous format, few even acknowledge that racism is even real.

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  3. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    I hear a lot about how Jesse Jackson apparently "makes up race issues." Myself, as a person who has, in part, "made his money off of race issues," I cannot think of one solitary instance where he "made up a race issue." If people are referring to Tawanna Brawley (sp?), I don't believe Jackson was part of the front lines in that issue, but I could be wrong. If he was, then that is one race issue that he has "made up."

    Aside from the constant recitation of this, does anyone know of specific instances where he "made up race issues?" Furthermore, if we want to characterize him as a guy who primarily "makes up race issues" (because, and as Sean McVeigh Hannity reminds us, discrimination and prejudice no longer exists since the election of President Obama), could we also list some race issues that he did not "make up" and were, in fact, real?

    And, yes, the Black Panther Party is a racist organization (and even more scary, they may be communists too). However, here's the key: they don't deny it. It is those who deny it and fail to recognize that racism is real that should be our primary concern.
    Geee i don't know how about the whole Lebron thing!!!

    Hannity and those do believe racism exist but when people start saying you are racist because you don't like Obama or agree with arresting Illegal Aliens then it becomes like the boy who cried wolf. Nobody is saying racism doesn't excist it does and always will whether we like it or not, but to say that it hasn't gotten better or that the majority of people look at the person and not the color/gender is a lie.


    How many people fail to see that racism exists? My guess a lot less that the total membership of the black panthers, KKK, portions of the NCAAP, neo nazi's...ect. I would say they would be the primary concern since they are openly racist. Those that fail to see that racism exists most likely don't view people as white/black/ect...and in my opinion aren't that dangerous. In fact i would say we need more people like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance174 View Post
    Geee i don't know how about the whole Lebron thing!!!

    Hannity and those do believe racism exist but when people start saying you are racist because you don't like Obama or agree with arresting Illegal Aliens then it becomes like the boy who cried wolf. Nobody is saying racism doesn't excist it does and always will whether we like it or not, but to say that it hasn't gotten better or that the majority of people look at the person and not the color/gender is a lie.


    How many people fail to see that racism exists? My guess a lot less that the total membership of the black panthers, KKK, portions of the NCAAP, neo nazi's...ect. I would say they would be the primary concern since they are openly racist. Those that fail to see that racism exists most likely don't view people as white/black/ect...and in my opinion aren't that dangerous. In fact i would say we need more people like them.
    Well, you're lucky! You happen to be talking with someone who knows the answers to some of your questions!

    First off, I barely even know who LeBron is, so clue me in on the story and what Jesse Jackson's involvement has been. If that is a case where he "made a race issue up," then we have a total documented case of one, and perhaps two, if we include Tawanny Brawley.

    Hannity DOES NOT believe that racism is real. His exact words paraphrased that I've heard him say on far too many occasions: "Let's put aside this idea that racism and discrimination is real. The election of Baack Obama has proven that to us." In fact, this quote led me to start documenting the number of racist incidents just against President Obama himself. I am up to about 10-15. I also have documented cases of it as far back as 1995 against minorities. If nothing else, I sure earn my pay!

    Second, as it relates to Sean McVeigh Hannity: If he believes that it is real, why does he always deny it and undermine claims of it when it happens? In fact, when a person has been caught redhanded making racist remarks, Sean McVeigh Hannity is usually the first to get that person on his show to "explain themselves," which typically involves Sean McVeigh Hannity apologizing for that person. Need further proof? Give me a holler. We'll talk about his support for an avowed racist.

    Here's where you're lucky in what I referred to before. Only about 40% of whites believe that racism, prejudice, and discrimination are real problems in modern society, compared with about 85% of minorities (of course, those folks are wrong, as they "make it up"). As taken from another source that I often quote, about 20% of Americans beleive that it has been completely whiped off of the face of American soil. Comapred to the total membership of the organizations that you mentioned, sadly, those numbers are FAR larger than their membership. However, membership in white racist organizations is almost irrelevant, as your typical person sides very closely with the beliefs of such persons. Take overt racial hatred out of the picture and you'll find that your typical American will side perfectly with what full blown, avowed racists will believe in. They will come on the same side of the fence in regards to gay rights, immigration, "illegal" immigration, affirmative action, President Obama, and on and on. I always teach that the diference between overt racists and regular folks is as much as one strand of hair.

    Seriously, if you need more data and info, I've got a carload and I won't post it if it isn't accurate! I don't need to...
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    "I cannot think of one solitary instance where he "made up a race issue."

    He just did it!

    I have written about institutional racism in the Greater Cleveland area on this very forum (financial and criminal justice). I have met with a lot of resistance to these notions. It is real.

    Why invent problems when real ones exist?
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    Because addressing real ones don't get your face on TV like spouting off to the cameras about owners expressing a "slave mentality" towards professional basketball players do.

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    "However, membership in white racist organizations is almost irrelevant, as your typical person sides very closely with the beliefs of such persons. Take overt racial hatred out of the picture and you'll find that your typical American will side perfectly with what full blown, avowed racists will believe in. They will come on the same side of the fence in regards to gay rights, immigration, "illegal" immigration, affirmative action, President Obama, and on and on. I always teach that the diference between overt racists and regular folks is as much as one strand of hair."


    You are stereotyping, Ban.

    Pretty seriously, in fact.
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  8. #17

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    Jesse Jackson is a joke. He's a bigot as well. He famously called Jews 'hymies' and NYC 'hymietown,' let's not forget. When confronted with this he claimed it was a Jewish conspiracy against him (gotta love the good old Jewish conspiracy line, taken right out of the pages the white racists he confronts). Then when presented with facts that he was lying (which he was), he said 'oops, I thought that was private.' He has a good cause, but he is an ass, and a bigot, and this is yet another example of him flat out making race an issue when it isn't even in the slightest sense. Seriously, fuck Jesse Jackson and his faux holier than thou bullshit.

  9. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    Take overt racial hatred out of the picture and you'll find that your typical American will side perfectly with what full blown, avowed racists will believe in. They will come on the same side of the fence in regards to gay rights, immigration, "illegal" immigration, affirmative action, President Obama, and on and on. I always teach that the diference between overt racists and regular folks is as much as one strand of hair.
    What is your idea of a "typical" American? Are people from all races considered "typical" to you?

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