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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    Prove that our entire existance isn't just a matrix and it is all an illusion. You can't. You are taking the position that nothing is real. I can go with that concept, it is fun, and back in my recreational drug useage days we had a lot of those conversations. Now that I am a grown up, with a child who wants a career in science, I had to give up all that pot/beer philosophy and grow up.

    If you have kids who want a career in science I would suggest you do the same. The reality is; in the USA educational knowledge and careers in science are trending down. Countries like China and India (ironically using our Colleges and Universities) are on the upswing. In a world where technolgy is speeding along how do you think our lagging in tech and science will work out for us?
    I still don't get where believing in God keeps you from a scientific career. Please explain because I have a nurse as a wife, a nurse with an emphasis on heart disease as a sister, a cousin who is a dentist and another cousin who is a pharmasist. They all believe in God. They all accept new technology. Not all christians are Amish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    Prove that stitches close a cut and a cast sets a bone.
    Give me a knife and a ball bat first. Then I'll give you a ride to the hospital and let them prove it. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    I dont know what illusion you are reffering to. I am simply pointing out the logic of your argument you presented to quinn. The whol dont go to a Dr if dont believe in evolution is bunk. Thats all I was getting at.
    Prove that the illusion I was refering to is, or isn't an illusion. Prove to me that anything is real. Prove to me that evolution is or isn't real. Prove to me you are real. Or I am real. Prove anything at all.

    I love threads like this.... they are an affirmation of important parental choices I made with regard to this kind of subject. In the realm of the supernatural everything is real, and not real, at the sametime. Anything is possible. In the real world you realize that this isn't so...... if any of this is real. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Give me a knife and a ball bat first. Then I'll give you a ride to the hospital and let them prove it. lol
    Prove that all that would happen with the knife and bat isn't just a matrix like illusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    Prove that all that would happen with the knife and bat isn't just a matrix like illusion.
    Are you drunk? This was a pretty good debate and now you've gone off the deep end. Your last couple of posts have made absolutely no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I still don't get where believing in God keeps you from a scientific career. Please explain because I have a nurse as a wife, a nurse with an emphasis on heart disease as a sister, a cousin who is a dentist and another cousin who is a pharmasist. They all believe in God. They all accept new technology. Not all christians are Amish.
    I didn't say believing in God. There are thousands of variations of "belief in God and/or Higher Powers" (Osama Bin Laden believes in God). I said, or at least meant, God beliefs as you believe them. From my POV they are almost as harmful in a societal perspective as are those of fundmentalist Islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Are you drunk? This was a pretty good debate and now you've gone off the deep end. Your last couple of posts have made absolutely no sense.
    You missed my point..... you believe in the supernatural.... with the supernatural all is possible and plausible. Your beliefs in the supernatural are as bizzare to me, as my recent posts are bizzare to you. When you believe in the supernatural anything and everything is possible and real. You just think your beliefs are special. To the skeptic they are all equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    I didn't say believing in God. There are thousands of variations of "belief in God and/or Higher Powers" (Osama Bin Laden believes in God). I said, or at least meant, God beliefs as you believe them. From my POV they are almost as harmful in a societal perspective as are those of fundmentalist Islam.
    I won't get offended by you saying my beliefs in God, as I believe them, is harmful to society. I would just like for you to explain how you think I believe in God. I don't think I have been harmful or hurtful to anyone and to compare me to people who flew a plane into the twin towers, frankly, is insulting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I still don't get where believing in God keeps you from a scientific career. Please explain because I have a nurse as a wife, a nurse with an emphasis on heart disease as a sister, a cousin who is a dentist and another cousin who is a pharmasist. They all believe in God. They all accept new technology. Not all christians are Amish.
    Yes. My dad is a meteorologist. One of his friends is an astrophysisist, who considers the Big Bang synonomous with the Christian view on creation: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

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