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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    The Big Bang theory is what solidified my belief. It seems less logical, to me, to believe that this world was the result of some cosmic accident. I started thinking about how everything in this world acts and reacts to one another to keep our existance. Like all the organs in our body, how we breath out what trees breath in, the food chain in the animal kingdom, ect. I just couldn't believe that it was all by accident.
    That's interesting because I find the big bang theory much easier to believe than an intelligent design. I don't think it's far fetched at all to accept that a cosmic event set things into motion, and very gradual changes (much too gradual for our limited minds to conceive of) occurred, which led to where we are today. I do, however, find it hard to believe that an intelligence is out there, which created us, watches over us, and protects us (but not very well, I'm afraid).

    I began to doubt organized religion at a very young age (pre-teen) when I read prayers which exalted God and his mightiness. I wondered why if God is so great, we have to heap this praise upon him. I also wondered how prayers can have any meaning if they were written by someone else and we're just repeating them. But mainly, I wondered why, if God knows what's in our minds and in our hearts, we need to have organized religion at all.

    I attended a Catholic funeral mass this morning and all my questions about organized religion were reconfirmed.
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    Is it that you dont believe the Bible to be completely true or that you dont believe the accepted interpretation of the bible to be true?
    Probably both. A lot of Christian traditions believe that the bible contains the word of God, while more fundamentalist Christians believe that the bible is the inspired word of God.

    As for the interpretations, yes, I think anyone would say that that has changed often through the years.
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    Oddly enough, this program begins tonight. Basic premise seems to be trying to answer what happened before the big bang (I will take the liberty to say, "That's what she said").

    http://science.discovery.com/tv/through-the-wormhole/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    That's interesting because I find the big bang theory much easier to believe than an intelligent design. I don't think it's far fetched at all to accept that a cosmic event set things into motion, and very gradual changes (much too gradual for our limited minds to conceive of) occurred, which led to where we are today. I do, however, find it hard to believe that an intelligence is out there, which created us, watches over us, and protects us (but not very well, I'm afraid).

    I began to doubt organized religion at a very young age (pre-teen) when I read prayers which exalted God and his mightiness. I wondered why if God is so great, we have to heap this praise upon him. I also wondered how prayers can have any meaning if they were written by someone else and we're just repeating them. But mainly, I wondered why, if God knows what's in our minds and in our hearts, we need to have organized religion at all.

    I attended a Catholic funeral mass this morning and all my questions about organized religion were reconfirmed.

    Spider, I knew there was a reason I liked you. I had the same questions. The ones about organized religion and why we need to praise God and repeating prayers in church. Once I figured that an accident couldn't have made everything I tried to find out the answers to these questions.

    Jesus didn't like religion. He was completely against it and even threw over tables at the entrance of the tabernacle. He said (forgive me I don't know verses by heart) that wherever two people speak of God, there I am. That's a church. That's not religion.

    I used to wonder why a God who knows everything wouldn't just make us love him and do what's right. But, then I heard a sermon that I thought taught me that lesson. It was a lesson about a jealous boyfriend. You all know what I'm talking about. We've all either been him or saved a girl from him. That's the guy who tries and MAKES you love him. God isn't like that. He gives you free will and tries to lead you, but if you don't believe in him, that's on you.

    Forcing someone to love you doesn't work and we all know that. That is why Jesus never forced anything on anyone and why we all have free will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachsparky View Post
    At the time of Pangaea there were no humans. The super continent was torn assunder some 180 million years ago more the 179 million years before the first homosapiens.
    You cant possibly know that, no one can and no one does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    Saying it happened about 4000 years ago is still saying you do not accept legitimate science. And this means all modern science since one field of science uses other fields of science to prove theories and so forth. In this case all of geology, and all the science used in geology (chemistry, physics, biology, hydrology, etc...).
    I agree with you and from previous posts I have made it clear that I dont believe in the young earth theory.

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    "At the time of Pangaea there were no humans. The super continent was torn assunder some 180 million years ago more the 179 million years before the first homosapiens."

    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    You cant possibly know that, no one can and no one does.
    Coachsparky's right. I was just a kid, but I was there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    "At the time of Pangaea there were no humans. The super continent was torn assunder some 180 million years ago more the 179 million years before the first homosapiens."



    Coachsparky's right. I was just a kid, but I was there.
    If you were there isnt he wrong? Have you taken your pills and nap today spider

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    If you were there isnt he wrong? Have you taken your pills and nap today spider
    Yes, I thought of that. Quick self-redeeming response: he was wrong about no humans, but right about the flood. Fortunately, I was sleeping on an inflated brontosaurus bladder (a forerunner to the air matress) and was saved.
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