Page 9 of 11 FirstFirst ... 67891011 LastLast
Results 73 to 81 of 92

Thread: Rand Paul

  1. #73

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    It's wasted because we aren't in China and to educate children in this country without the ability to speak the language is doing them a disservice. Why would you want to limit a child to a few segments of their own country? Will they be able to get a job here if all they can speak is chinese? Maybe, but it's limited to chinese speaking places and why do that? So, imo, not acclimenting them to their envirnonment is a waste of my tax dollars.

    Here is a link for you Schlottke. I assume it's from the same one you said was legit. It points out that you do need english unless you're over 50yrs old and lived here for 20yrs.

    http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...00b92ca60aRCRD
    Yeah, I posted the list of 40 or so vocabulary words you need to know to pass the English portion of the test. None of the requirements force you to really know or understand English. I bet there are a lot of people here that at some point also knew algebra.

    They go out of their way the rest of the test (by allowing Spanish versions of the test, and perhaps other languages) to allow people who don't want to go beyond basic conversation
    Last edited by Schlottke; 05-26-2010 at 05:46 PM.

  2. #74

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    Yeah, I posted the list of 40 or so vocabulary words you need to know to pass the English portion of the test. None of the requirements force you to really know or understand English. I bet there are a lot of people here that at some point also knew algebra.
    If I needed to know how to solve for "x" in order to get around in daily life, then I would make sure I knew how. If I choose not to know how for no reason other than laziness or contempt, then I would expect a hard way to go. It's just a dumb decision to live in this country and not no how to speak the language. Unless you are on vacation, I have no problem with people getting angry with you.

  3. #75

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    If I needed to know how to solve for "x" in order to get around in daily life, then I would make sure I knew how. If I choose not to know how for no reason other than laziness or contempt, then I would expect a hard way to go. It's just a dumb decision to live in this country and not no how to speak the language. Unless you are on vacation, I have no problem with people getting angry with you.
    It depends on your business or the job you are involved in. Live in South Texas and run a construction company without knowing Spanish - it could be considered just as dumb of a decision to try that.

    People have the same right to ignore learning English that you otherwise fight to protect in other areas. Like the right to pick your own health care plan or refuse to have one at all. It's just that in this case you think the person needs English. The Democrats felt we all needed health care in a similar fashion.

  4. #76

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    It depends on your business or the job you are involved in. Live in South Texas and run a construction company without knowing Spanish - it could be considered just as dumb of a decision to try that.
    Which proves my point! Not knowing spanish hurts that industry so they learn it. Not knowing how to speak english will hurt the progress of any kid living in America. So learn it! Glad we are finally on the same page.

  5. #77

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Which proves my point! Not knowing spanish hurts that industry so they learn it. Not knowing how to speak english will hurt the progress of any kid living in America. So learn it! Glad we are finally on the same page.
    LOL.. I never once said I was a proponent of not learning the language, just like I'm not a proponent of living without health insurance. I said we are not required by law to learn it and they are within their rights as citizens of the United States to refuse to learn our language. Whether its from laziness, stupidity, or religious beliefs.

  6. #78

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    Your tax dollars go towards public schools regardless of whether your kids go to private school.
    I understand, but if someone sends their kid to private school which doesn't recieve any tax dollars, how is that a waste of Quinn's taxes?
    There's no such thing as a pretty good aligator wrestler.

  7. #79

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I don't think Ban or you were talking about private schools that are okayed by our government. I am sure that in Ban's grandma's case travel and communication was so limited that school's like that existed.
    I'm talking about private schools, the topic went from Ban's grandmother not speaking english to the question of whether or not someone could grow up in the US today and not learn english. I think private schools are relevant in that aspect of the conversation.

    Now-a-days that isn't the case and the government has to approve a private school. I don't know of a single one where english isn't taught. Do you?
    I have no idea how schools (public or private) work in 'ethnic area' (Chinatown's, etc) it seems possible to me that schools in these areas would cater to what parents in the area wanted and there may be instances where there is enough demand to have native-language schools. I doubt it's common but I wouldn't bet that they don't exist.
    I have cousins who went to a (I believe public) school that taught predominantly in french (the school was in MA in an predominatnly english speaking area), they both turned out fine.
    There's no such thing as a pretty good aligator wrestler.

  8. #80

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    Alright, I will concede that it could be possible for that to happen now-a-days. I've never heard of it, but I don't live in China town.

    I still think it would be unwise to grow up here and not learn English. If someone does make that choice, they should expect life to be much more difficult. If they chose not to learn English, what would make them think that a store owner would have to learn their language in order to do business? It is just a very poor decision.

  9. #81
    Olympic Champ kr1963's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Clearwater, Florida, United States
    Posts
    7,028

    Default Re: Rand Paul

    I don't understand why someone wouldn't want to learn English. Anytime I travel to another country that's the first thing I do. I can understand having a lesser aptitude for languages but over the course of time, I cannot imagine that someone wouldn't at least learn some English.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •