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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100523/..._politics_paul

    His party chairman says he's "misguided"

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    Honest to God, I'm not following it closely, but he seems pretty nutty from a cursory glance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
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    His party chairman says he's "misguided"
    Thats to be expected. Republicans are scared of libertarians. They did all they could to marginalize Ron Paul during the election. A libertarian in the senate is much safer for them because they can always count on their vote to minimize government spending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ideamark View Post
    It'll be interesting to see.

    This afternoon I watched a rebroadcast of Friday evening's "Comment on Kentucky" political discussion show on KET (akin to the Iowa Public TV "network" for the Bluegrass State) where the assembled political reporters from various parts of the Commonwealth had different takes on where Rand Paul is right now. For example, the Paducah newspaperman thought folks in his part of the state thought this was all the liberal media going after "their" candidate... while someone from Lexington said, "For being an opthomologist, Paul must have a serious case of glaucoma", saying that the Democrat may actually have a chance in November. (I can't remember the Dem's name, but he's from Louisville, and in the primary he defeated the sitting KY Lt. Governor, who is from Hazard, and had lost to Senator Bunning by a whisker 6 years ago.)

    They also discussed some of the dynamics of GOP politics in KY -- that Paul, having defeated the "official" GOP senatorial candidate, Trey Grayson (current KY Sec of State), is NOT beloved by the power people in the KY GOP, esp Mitch McConnell. However, GOP politicians who don't like McConnell (including Sen Bunning, and former Congresswoman Anne Northrup, to name two powerful people) had put their support behind Paul, and show no public signs of pulling that support.

    The pundits thought the next few days would be critical as to what Paul's future would be. One suggested that he take a couple weeks off, and refuse interviews.

    Also -- the panel said that Paul's views on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 came out about 3 weeks before the election in his meeting with the editorial board of the Louisville Courier-Journal, about as close to a statewide paper as Kentucky has, with considerable clout (though many in the Commonwealth think it's too big-city liberal). Apparently the paper wrote an editorial about Paul's views, but the media didn't widely report the story... until some like Rachel Maddow of MSNBC and Robert Segal of NPR did their post-primary interviews with Paul, and questioned his positions.

    The KET pundit panel thought Paul's comments on BP -- and especially coal companies, where he said something to the effect of "accidents happen" RE the recent coal mine disaster in West Virginia that claimed 29 lives -- would not sit well in coal country in Kentucky. Coal is still a major industry in the Commonwealth, employing tens of thousands.

    Sorry for the ramble, but thought some of you might find it interesting to see what some political pundits in the Bluegrass are saying about the man who, until his recent public comments, was thought to be a sure bet for being the next senator from Kentucky.

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    I think Rand Paul is less agreeable than his dad, but I think that his trouncing of the GOP's pick speaks volumes. If the media can't find something new to question about Paul between now and election day he'll win.

    I don't think he'll get by that easy though, I could see him make another major blunder before its all over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    I'll bet you aren't in that situeration everyday, but I'll let that rest.

    So, all non-English speaking people are "illegal?" How did my grandma pull that one off, being legally born in the U.S. in an all-german community? She didn't learn to speak English until she was 30.

    Also, what should we do in cases such as my aunt, who is deaf and can't speak? Ban her from the shop too? How about the guy who asks why they ain't got no steak in this weeK? Ban him too?
    I did exaggerate the everyday part, but it happens often. Now, how in the world could your aunt live in America for 30 years and not speak English? Didn't she go to school? I think that these days knowing how to speak English is a requirement for citizenship, so the Mexican's who can't do it are probably illegal.

    As far as banning people from stores, I never said that. I was agreeing with you that it is some kind of stupid. I'm on your side with this one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I think that these days knowing how to speak English is a requirement for citizenship, so the Mexican's who can't do it are probably illegal.
    Not meeting a requirement for citizenship does not mean someone is 'probably illegal'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I did exaggerate the everyday part, but it happens often. Now, how in the world could your aunt live in America for 30 years and not speak English? Didn't she go to school? I think that these days knowing how to speak English is a requirement for citizenship, so the Mexican's who can't do it are probably illegal.

    As far as banning people from stores, I never said that. I was agreeing with you that it is some kind of stupid. I'm on your side with this one!
    Point of correction: it was my grandma. My aunt is deaf, and can't speak.

    How did my grandma pull that off? The same way that nearly all German immigrants who came to the U.S. did for the first 75 years that they were here on U.S. soil: they lived in self-sustaining German communes with no interest in assimilating or becoming "Americans." What did that mean? It meant that they didn't assimilate, and especially did not learn English. They had no intention of learning the language until WWI came along and Americans began questioning their loyalty.

    If you've ever heard of "German banks," those are remnants of those days, as German immigrants could conduct business in them in their own language. Dubuque and Dyersville Iowa both have such banks, where you can still see "German Bank" carved in stone at the top of the buildings.

    Here's what Benjamin Franklin had to say about Germans coming over here and over running our country, while also not learning the language. http://www.dialoginternational.com/d...anklin-on.html

    Hopefully, you've learned that all immigrant groups eventually learn the language, even though everyone thinks that they somehow get their kicks out of not learning it.
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    Here's an excellent power point of what we thought about those "swarthy Germans."

    http://www.austincc.edu/immigrat/doc...iazMiranda.ppt
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    Spider I think we all agree that people should be treated equal. But we still have male and female only clubs, do these violate the civil rights bill? Should people be able to carry a gun into an establishment that does not wish to have that gun on the property? The issue is the government taking to much power over private business and property. Should business owners be allowed to refuse service if the customer can not communicate in the language of the establishment?

    It is a slippery slope, where the government can have to much control over private enterprise.
    I would agree with you Ugly...

    The simple minded reactionaries can't wait to find a fault with someone who would restore the rights to everyone while fighting the government's reach into their lives.

    I think it is a no-brainer that Rand is like his father & is a TRUE Libertarian & constitutionalist. To think he is against human & civil rights is just ridiculous. It is more of the media mob trying to goad a person who is not apart of the political elite who do their master's bidding. Ron Paul has never voted for a tax cut & has been against the wasteful spending of our tax dollars as well has been for more government transparency.

    Rand will carry on this tradition.

    This is not a right vs left issue but more the people vs the Corporatocracy.

    If you open the door to a government to telling you can't violate someone's civil rights, you also open the door to the government going in & telling you that you can't do other things, (like maybe your choice of religion or political beliefs).


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