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    Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees
    Freedom of expression or cultural disrespect on Cinco de Mayo?
    By GEORGE KIRIYAMA
    Updated 6:26 AM PDT, Thu, May 6, 2010
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    On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.
    Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.
    "They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."
    The boys said the administrators called their T-shirts "incendiary" that would lead to fights on campus.

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    "They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," Dominic Maciel, Galli's friend, said.
    The boys really had no choice, and went home to avoid suspension. They say they're angry they were not allowed to express their American pride. Their parents are just as upset, calling what happened to their children, "total nonsense."
    "I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."
    But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.
    "I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."
    As for an apology, the boys and their families say, "fat chance."
    "I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said. "I went along with my normal day. I might have worn an American flag, but I'm an American and I'm proud to be an American."
    The five boys and their families met with a Morgan Hill Unified School District official Wednesday night. The district released a statement saying it does not agree with how Live Oak High School administrators handled this incident.
    The boys will not be suspended and they were told they can go back to school Thursday. They may even wear their red, white, and blue colors again, but this time, the day after Cinco de Mayo, there will be no controversy.
    Wonder if Americans would demand the same respect in Mexico, Canada, or any other country.
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    Technically, what these boys did was not wrong, but the obvious intent behind it was disrespectful and stupid, and shouldn't be allowed to be cloaked in the guise of patriotism. It would be similar to wearing an "I [Heart] Germany" t-shirt to an assembly commemorating the holocaust: nothing wrong with the t-shirt, but an obvious statement which can not be attributed to coincidence. Their parents are assholes for defending their children's behavior, and therein lies the problem.
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    "I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said.

    I don't see what's wrong with saying something along the lines of "I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I did not intend to", unless he actually did intend to.
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    Back in the day I remember having to adhere to a dress code. These slobs (not these particular slobs) today are an example of disrespect to those of us who played by the rules. Hats, shorts, bandanas, tatoos, tee shirts etc show that the parent or parents and the school administrations don't give a crap and actually show a weakness to teach discipline to this generation.

    This is not coming from an old fart, rather from someone who was taught a modicum of respect while attending school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by washed up wrestler View Post
    Back in the day I remember having to adhere to a dress code. These slobs (not these particular slobs) today are an example of disrespect to those of us who played by the rules. Hats, shorts, bandanas, tatoos, tee shirts etc show that the parent or parents and the school administrations don't give a crap and actually show a weakness to teach discipline to this generation.

    This is not coming from an old fart, rather from someone who was taught a modicum of respect while attending school.
    I agree, but that's not the point here. The kids were making a counterstatement to the hispanic kids' celebration of their national holiday (I know, they're Americans, but it's their cultural heritage). As the article stated: "They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."
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    I will say this: a better solution to this situation would have been no interferrence from the administration, and their fellow students telling them all day long what insensitive morons they were. Political correctness would often be better served by some people simply turning the other way and not being so easily offended, and others exerting some peer pressure to discourage unpopular activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I will say this: a better solution to this situation would have been no interferrence from the administration, and their fellow students telling them all day long what insensitive morons they were. Political correctness would often be better served by some people simply turning the other way and not being so easily offended, and others exerting some peer pressure to discourage unpopular activities.
    You posted while I was still drafting my response, and I also agree with what you posted here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I will say this: a better solution to this situation would have been no interferrence from the administration, and their fellow students telling them all day long what insensitive morons they were. Political correctness would often be better served by some people simply turning the other way and not being so easily offended, and others exerting some peer pressure to discourage unpopular activities.
    Although i have no problem with a student wearing an American shirt to school even on Cinco de Mayo and don't agree with the students being sent home, it was a classless move by the students. Those with Hispanic backgrounds should be able to celebrate their heritage, just like those with Irish backgrounds celebrate theirs.

    you are right with sometimes political correctness goes to far and people need to toughen up and that peer pressure can be a good thing at times like the wha tyoustated.

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    BTW, if I'm wrong and the kids really did just happen to wear their American flag shirts that day with no intention of making any kind of counter-cinqo-de-mayo statement, and they're really nice kids who aren't in the least bit racist, then all bets are off and I apologize to them, but still . . .


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    "I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said.

    I don't see what's wrong with saying something along the lines of "I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I did not intend to", unless he actually did intend to.
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