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    From what I know, McVeigh and Kazinski weren't part of a bigger group of white people wanting to tear down the US. So, it's hard to profile a group of people if the terrorist acts were individual. I don't know for sure, but I'll bet the KKK and other white supremist groups are profiled in places where they are prevelant.

    I think the real question is whether the risk of offending some muslims worth the possible reward of keeping America safe. I say yes.

  2. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    From what I know, McVeigh and Kazinski weren't part of a bigger group of white people wanting to tear down the US. So, it's hard to profile a group of people if the terrorist acts were individual. I don't know for sure, but I'll bet the KKK and other white supremist groups are profiled in places where they are prevelant.

    I think the real question is whether the risk of offending some muslims worth the possible reward of keeping America safe. I say yes.
    Was the recent psychiatrist part of a bigger group wanting to tear down the U.S.? If not (he wasn't), then I wonder why were we so hell bent on proving that he was a terrorist with larger terrorist connections?
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  3. #39

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    Back to the topic at hand. Why do small gov't repubs cheer this law? There is no argument that illegal imigration is a problem, but it's a racist profiling law. Where was McCain when it comes to protecting his own state?

    The hypocrisy/flipflopping is pathetic. This big gov't law is not the answer-but repubs usually don't have an answer.

    BTW, my state has millions more than anywhere else. Where was Bush during this? Where was Clinton during this? Where is Brewer with penalizing employers? Why does Arizona want their cops to take time with this when there are serious violent crimes being committed?

    Prop 187 was ruled unconstitutional-just as will happen in AZ.

  4. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    Was the recent psychiatrist part of a bigger group wanting to tear down the U.S.? If not (he wasn't), then I wonder why were we so hell bent on proving that he was a terrorist with larger terrorist connections?

    I found this in a story written right after the shooting. Don't know what came of it, though.


    At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

  5. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I found this in a story written right after the shooting. Don't know what came of it, though.


    At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
    I suspect that you read this from the same article that I just referenced. This followed your quote two paragraphs down...

    ..."It's difficult to know from a single comment, of course, if that "NidalHasan" was the account used by the same person now in custody after the shooting. A public records search lists at least half a dozen people in the United States with the same first and last name."

    I do know, however, that his "connection" to al Qeida that people were trying to make was not found by the FBI. The "contacts" that he had with them concerned his research that he was doing on PTSD, so the FBI left it alone.
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  6. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    The fact is those people are terrorist but we are under the threat of Islamic terrorist more than we are any other type of person.
    Not sure that I would buy that one. In terms of sheer number of acts of terrorism-not body count-we've had FAR more terrorist attacks on U.S. soil by native born, white Americans. In addition, terrorists numbers are a few hundred, scattered in several places all over the world. When you look at the hundreds of people right here on American soil who are hell bent on planning such attacks, I find the local threat of it FAR greater.
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  7. #43

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    I also found this case kind of curious as well.

    These killings in an apartment that mainly housed soldiers right off from a military base occurred about one week after Hasan committed his killings.

    I couldn't help but notice that people weren't immediately trying to connect him with terrorist groups. I sure had fun trying to do it, though. Of course, people would never see it as part of a larger terror network, even though the situations are very similar.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/12/02/...ngs/index.html
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  8. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    I suspect that you read this from the same article that I just referenced. This followed your quote two paragraphs down...

    ..."It's difficult to know from a single comment, of course, if that "NidalHasan" was the account used by the same person now in custody after the shooting. A public records search lists at least half a dozen people in the United States with the same first and last name."

    I do know, however, that his "connection" to al Qeida that people were trying to make was not found by the FBI. The "contacts" that he had with them concerned his research that he was doing on PTSD, so the FBI left it alone.
    I wasn't saying I agreed. I was trying to answer your question on why they tried to make a connection. I think it was worth looking into. Do you know what ever came of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    I suspect that you read this from the same article that I just referenced. This followed your quote two paragraphs down...

    ..."It's difficult to know from a single comment, of course, if that "NidalHasan" was the account used by the same person now in custody after the shooting. A public records search lists at least half a dozen people in the United States with the same first and last name."
    Did any of those other 1/2 dozen people commit a massacre similar to the one in custody?

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