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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    Why won't health insurance continue to be a barganing chip with this new legislation?

    If the White House really wanted employers to carry the health insurance then they would make the penalty for not doing it more expensive than providing it. They are doing the exact opposite. By making it cheaper for an employer to pay a penalty, they give no insentive for them to provide the insurance. With these government regulated pools and fines for individuals not carrying insurance, they will then make people be on some sort of government regulated insurance.

    The reason it won't be a bargaining chip anymore is because if they get what they want, then these pools will be so much cheaper that it would be ridiculous for an employer to offer insurance. They could then spin it by saying that it proves that they do insurance better.

    Personally, I think it is a pretty good idea to have these pools. I just don't want the government in it in any way. I also don't like mandating it. But the overall idea of people pooling their money like corporations is not a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    All I'm saying is that for better or worse, I don't believe that Obamacare has any hidden agenda or intentions other than to make healthcare available and affordable to all citizens. Whether the upside is worth the downside depends on one's opinion of whether healthcare is a right or a privilege.

    (a cop out to be sure, but I've paid my dues and I'm entitled ).
    Entitled ? Perhaps you belong to the current generation of narcissists??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berean View Post
    Entitled ? Perhaps you belong to the current generation of narcissists??
    Yes, I'm certainly a member of the "Me generation." I haven't worked a day in my life, give nothing to charity, hardly pay any taxes, and have everything handed to me on a silver platter. Oops, that's the Bizzarro Spider (old Superman reference). BTW, do you even know what a narcissist is? Do you ever even think about what you say/post before you embarass yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    Do you ever even think about what you say/post before you embarass yourself?
    I'ma guess that the answer there is a no.

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    Entitled ? Perhaps you belong to the current generation of narcissists??
    Go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    Yes, I'm certainly a member of the "Me generation." I haven't worked a day in my life, give nothing to charity, hardly pay any taxes, and have everything handed to me on a silver platter. Oops, that's the Bizzarro Spider (old Superman reference). BTW, do you even know what a narcissist is? Do you ever even think about what you say/post before you embarass yourself?
    You sir, may begin at the third paragraph ! http://psychcentral.com/blog/archive...-a-narcissist/ I begin at paragraph 'four'...(first five sentences)
    Last edited by Berean; 04-22-2010 at 05:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berean View Post
    You sir, may begin at the third paragraph ! http://psychcentral.com/blog/archive...-a-narcissist/ I begin at paragraph 'four'...(first five sentences)
    You have less than no idea what your talking about. Other than this board, I don't know Spider from Adam, and don't even 'know' him well here, but upon asking him questions have gotten far and away more detailed than answers than I could have expected, along with a invitation to feel free to come back with more. You on the other hand, well, that seems to be a bit of a different story. Your posts aren't even coherent. Nor are your rambling militiaesque PMs.

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    Berean, I read your reference and, if I may be serious for a moment, find that the label in no way applies to me. You, sir, know absolutely nothing about me. You have no idea how I conduct my life, how I see my role in society, how I relate to others, how much financial and emotional support I give to friends and family in need, how much empathy I have for my patients, etc. etc. etc. While you would like to think you can pigeonhole me into one of your neat little categories, the fact is that your ambition far exceeds your knowledge and you are woefully incapable of sitting in judgement.

    As I have said to you in a Private Message, I'm tired of trying to offer rational responses to irrational criticism, so I will simply say good evening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyshackleford View Post
    You have less than no idea what your talking about. Other than this board, I don't know Spider from Adam, and don't even 'know' him well here, but upon asking him questions have gotten far and away more detailed than answers than I could have expected, along with a invitation to feel free to come back with more. You on the other hand, well, that seems to be a bit of a different story. Your posts aren't even coherent. Nor are your rambling militiaesque PMs.
    Agreed i don't know Spider at all but based on his (Spider's) posts i think Berean is way off the mark. I have been quilty of irrational posts brought on by emotion and I hope this is one of those cases for Berean.

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