I remember getting spankings at school in 1st grade, 2nd grade, 3rd grade, and 4th grade. The principal had a had a huge paddle with a bunch of holes in it. Hurt like a beyatch.
Having said that, I wouldn't want a principal to spank either my five year old or my three year old.
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WHAT is a 60 year old , 90 pound female going to do ? Call the office ? THEY rarely respond and if they do the teacher must fill out tons of paperwork and risk the wrath of the student .
30 years ago it was 5% who ruined school for everyone -now it is 50/50. You report the Bullying -then what ? The admin does not care nor do they wish to deal with any of this .
I mentioned in another post about how a policeman TASERED a 10 year old boy at Daycare and 1/2 the idiots around here backed the policeman . IF a teacher puts a hand on a student they may face criminal charges .
I have NO answers and have NO kids so I do NOT care anymore -IF I had a child in Public schools I would work 3 jobs to place him/her into a good private school or home school him/her . If I ever came home from work and found out my 10 year old , 90 pound son had been slapped and Tasered at Daycare they may as well get a cell ready for me .
I'd be shocked if this still happens a lot. From teachers or parents. We've totally given all the power to the children so when they mess up, they know in the end, they have all the power. The day we stopped spanking kids for their stupid actions, was the day it all went down hill, IMO.
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Unless Canadian schools are different than American schools (which is certainly possible)...
I agree that teachers don't have enough power over their students. As a teacher of students with behavior problems, it frustrates me every single days. But I do know that principal's office and suspension are common consequences for fighting.
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Have you had one of your special needs students attack you yet ? Or try to commit an act of violence against another student yet ?-Anything from Bullying to Rape ?
Down here in the States most schools have a zero policy in place and if you call ADMIN in the kid will be expelled and probably doomed for life - some fricking genius in congress decided a zero tolerance guideline would keep every one in line -someone forgot to tell him a lot of these kids have NO self control and are mentally ill. Case in point-a 4.0+ student pulled out a swiss army knife and adjusted her teacher's chair for him -the teacher promptly reported her for having a weapon and this brilliant young student nearly lost being class Valedictorian and nearly went to jail-she also nearly lost her scholarship . Point being Zero Tolerance does not work .PERIOD . Had she been one of my former students she would have went to jail or DCS-sounds like your kids would have been in the same boat .
I wish I had some answers , I really do, but the system has been eroding for so long that no cornerstone exists -what is the goal of a high school ? To graduate kids or educate them ? Why bother setting up a special needs program which recognizes the fact these certain students are different then treat them the same ? I understand the difference between a sharpened screw driver and a Swiss Army knife -the law does NOT see any difference , however ,albeit both may be used as weapons -whom would you rather have the Swiss Army Knife or the sharpened screw driver ?
This is but one facet of a 1,000 changes which need to be made . Yet NOTHING will be done .
People point to the Japanese model-the MOST efficient model on the planet yet do not realize the role the Japaneses mother plays in the educational system . Japanese students average 5 hours homework a night and the mother is expected to be the preeminent tutor -this cannot happen in America as most families have both parents working -K-12 are the important grades over there as college is party time if affordable -our system is ass backwards .
The problems go on for ever and as I stated -I have NO answers .
I've never been a fan of zero tolerance, mandatory sentencing, or three strikes and you're out. They're just political bandwagons and shortcuts for lazy judges. Every case is different and every situation is unique. Even in the case of a repeat offender, all extenuating circumstances must be considered. I'm no bleeding heart and some people deserve to be locked up and the key thrown away, but justice requires a thorough consideration of all the facts, not just a checklist.
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