If you except that things occur randomly in the universe, and that the universe is infinitely large, then not only is there intelligent life on other planets, but there are an infinite number of planets which are exactly the same as ours (as in, this exact same thread exists on an infinite number of message boards accross the universe).
RadioLab on NPR did a show about this a while ago, I left with the impression that everyone who studies the universe must be stoned pretty much 24-7.
There's no such thing as a pretty good aligator wrestler.
On the same vein, it has been calculated that there are more possible combinations in a 120 move chess match than all of the atoms in the universe.
I think that your criteria of proof is that it plays on CNN. As of now, that will never happen. But if you actually went to some of these events your thinking might @ least question the veracity of the so called pundits & experts, who, IMO are in complete denial and/or just covering stuff up.
2010 Speakers | International UFO Congress
The UK Police UFO sightings Database
The Travis Walton Story
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Hyper-dimensional Hexagon clouds on Saturn
I am not opposed to the idea that there could be or that there has been life on other planets. I dont believe that they have visited our planet in secret or that the government is holding their visits secret along with the cure for cancer, aids and a car that runs on salt water. I just dont see it. Why is it that the only sightings are usually in farm country or in places where people have lower education?
Why do the aliens come in secret. Obviously if they can get here their technology is great and they nothing to fear from us. Also if they have come why have they not tried to conquer us.
I know people speculate that the pyramids and the nazca lines were made by aliens. This is complete bunk IMO and I will wait until I see something myself or something big happens before I can believe anything.
Is any more far fetched then thinking that if someone believes in a guy who lived 2000 years you will be immortal? Or that if you drink a cup of wine that you are drinking his blood & are spiritually saved? Or that Obama's healthcare reform will actually help people? Or that taking prozac makes you sane despite statistics showing otherwise?
If you had a scientist tell you a few things maybe that would be valid...
Dr Roger Leir & removing implants
The Aliens and the Scalpel - Google Books
Analysis of Implant
Analysis of Object Taken from Patient John Smith(TAJ).pdf
Pages 8-9 shows nano-fibers
Pages 10 & 23 show nano-geometric objects @ 37,000x magnification.
Page 26 ICP MS analysis showing 51 different elements in the object
Page 29 Isotopic analysis which clearly states: "This object was probably NOT formed on EARTH...the isotropic distributions of the elements in the sample differed by as much as 4% from terrestrial distributions of the same elements, indicating that the sample did not originate from Earth."
Page 30 Substance is consistent with a class of low-nickel iron meteorites known as hexahedrites.
Page 31 The substance is not of origin from within our own solar system & is consistent in isotropic value with materials that would come from a supernova near the center of our galaxy.
Also Page 31 the outer ceramic casing of the implant resembles in chemical composure a substance similar to shell or bone & was 100 to 200 nanometers in thickness.
Page 32 Analysis of nano tubes which conduct electricity.
Also Page 32 There are NO known meteorites that have within their metals a ceramic inclusion. Also most ceramic inclusions of this type would melt at the temperatures needed to create the metal mixture inside.
Also Page 32 Object is an artificially created with off planet materials that also gave off radio signals.
Page 33 Conclusions: Object is not created by any known commercial processes currently here on earth. Object is made from materials NOT of Earth origin.
Page 34 Conclusions: Ceramic material consists of carbon nano-tubes filled with other metals. Object gave off radio signals. Object could be responsible for patients lack of immune system response.
you have to ask yourself
How did an object made of materials only found at the center of the galaxy get wrapped in nano-tube carbon ceramic material, that contains perfectly shaped cubes & gives off radio signals, get inside into someone's foot?
Last edited by kr1963; 03-11-2010 at 01:14 PM.