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    It's pretty clear Obama intentionally picked a weakling to minimize further efforts to strengthen security. This situation is most embarassing for him since he has been dampening Muslin animosity. The last thing he needs is dealing with periodic Muslim terror plots.

    At first, I thought this may have been CIA special ops gone awry. By that I mean, if you want to root out evil, you need a means to lead you to it. By letting the guy in, they could monitor who he communicates with. Downside the guy pried open a gap in airline security. Now that is something you will never hear admitted in the news. Unfortunately, this bimbo gives me the impression it was in fact a screw up. In many ways it is like Bush being criticized for 911. He was only in office 9 months and had not gotten around to replacing anyone the FBI or CIA. Well Obama just installed the bimbo, she's still learning the system. That is perfectly underatandable, but by playing with words and trying jsutify actions, she eliminated any faith I had up till now in Homeland Administration. After seeing the personality that is leading the effort, no doubt the terrorist community will look at the US as open for business.
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    Different sort of situation, but this kind of reminds me of the Katrina early comments, except we dodged this bullet. Same sort of incompetence and cluelessness. Had that bomb actually gone off she'd of already "tendered her resignation".

    Maybe some good can come out of it although I tend to suspect that partisanship trumps policy and saftey..... this goes for the Democrats and Republicans. They don't care about saftey.... they care about power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    That could be a interesting topic for another thread (I personally don't care one way or another and I have lived near the border for 32 years).

    You changed a legitimate complaint into a partisan sound bite. You stepped on your own message and basically hi-jacked your own thread. I would suggest you stick with the legitimate beef and skip the purely partisanship sound bites...... which was the only point I was making.

    FWIW, it is your thread so I guess you are allowed to hijack it.
    How is bringing up her failure to secure one state border in a previous post unrelated to her inability to secure the rest of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    You changed a legitimate complaint into a partisan sound bite. You stepped on your own message and basically hi-jacked your own thread. I would suggest you stick with the legitimate beef and skip the purely partisanship sound bites...... which was the only point I was making.

    FWIW, it is your thread so I guess you are allowed to hijack it.
    Scott, not trying to start a fight here, but why is it partisan to say that someone didn't control the border? Would only a republican want to enforce the border laws? Do the democrats by definition not care about the borders?

    I don't fall down strongly on either side, but I lean towards stronger border laws (or enforcement of existing). Does that automatically make me partisan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    How is bringing up her failure to secure one state border in a previous post unrelated to her inability to secure the rest of them?
    Yawn.... partisan thing now.... bailing on the thread.... not interested.

    Scott - who doesn't give a crap about who is in power, who wins elections, and doesn't vote for anything other than local stuff. And if you want my real opinion about this topic..... Americans are a bunch of wimps, who are easy to scare, the terrorists have already won, and we get what we deserve. If it isn't in front of me, then my worldview is I don't give a sh!t. Since I have taken this atitude my BP has gone from 220 to 170. Still hypertensive but maybe survivable.
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    Glad your blood pressure is down Scott!

    This is a bit off topic, but every time I go through security at an airport (which is a lot) I think to myself "it wouldn't be that hard to get a weapon onto the plane." Guess this proves my thinking right, at least. I don't know anything about explosives like the one the Nigerian terrorist has, but it seems like it would be easy to bring a blade onto a plane, as long as it was made from a material that doesn't set off the metal detectors.

    They sure are more strict than back in the day though, I remember buying a pretty good sized bow and arrow in Africa when I was a teenager, they made me put the arrows in Cargo but I carried the bow around on the plane.

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    For those defending Napolitano, what her words meant to me, is that she DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE as to what this event signaled.

    She left herself open to people speculating about her mindset when she was first informed. What her immediate internal reaction was. My first question was "does she think this was some inept solo individual, unaided, and therefore not part of some worrisome pattern?" It (perhaps) reveals an underlying assumption of hers that national security is doing just fine in staving off threats of the fanatics.

    I also wonder if a REAL expert and not a political appointee, would have had the same reaction. I'm betting that alarm bells and red flags would have been a real expert's IMMEDIATE reaction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    Yawn.... partisan thing now.... bailing on the thread.... not interested.

    Scott - who doesn't give a crap about who is in power, who wins elections, and doesn't vote for anything other than local stuff. And if you want my real opinion about this topic..... Americans are a bunch of wimps, who are easy to scare, the terrorists have already won, and we get what we deserve. If it isn't in front of me, then my worldview is I don't give a sh!t. Since I have taken this atitude my BP has gone from 220 to 170. Still hypertensive but maybe survivable.
    And this wasnt partisan?
    "Different sort of situation, but this kind of reminds me of the Katrina early comments, except we dodged this bullet. Same sort of incompetence and cluelessness. Had that bomb actually gone off she'd of already "tendered her resignation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tight-Waist View Post
    And this wasnt partisan?
    "Different sort of situation, but this kind of reminds me of the Katrina early comments, except we dodged this bullet. Same sort of incompetence and cluelessness. Had that bomb actually gone off she'd of already "tendered her resignation".
    Not really...... that was a documented screw up much like this instance is a documented screw up. I was just commenting on Ugly stepping on his argument and everybody got all partisan and nuts about it. Typical.

    One more time...... I don't watch the news anymore. I don't read any newspapers except the local one. I keep up on current events because the AP wire is on my homepage so I see the headlines. I don't care which party is in power. I no longer vote for anything other than very local (with only 10,000 in the county we are talking about VERY local) elections. I don't care what happens with the health care bill. Or climate change/global warming legislation. I don't care what happens with our borders or the immigration debate. Nor how many troops we send to countries for the various wars, nor what happens in those wars. I no longer care whether gay marraige is legal or not. None of it. And if airports further increase the time it takes to fly because we are terrorized, then unless it is cross country or over the water, I will drive instead of fly. It's less hassle and not really all that much more time consuming these days. What I do care care about is my kid, my immediate family, my household, my jobs, and the kids I coach and teach. Something I learned the hard way over the past year is all the rest of the stuff doesn't matter, there are WAY more important things right in front of me.
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