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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    The blacks should have been treated equal already. The fact that they weren't is imbarassing. Gays marrying or even straights marrying isn't in the Constitution. And according to the tenth amendment IS up to the states.

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
    Whether or not it is on the constitution, gays, like all other humans, still wanted to be treated equally.

    Still not sure how it does not fall under the equal protection clause of the 14th(?) amnedment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    Whether or not it is on the constitution, gays, like all other humans, still wanted to be treated equally.

    Still not sure how it does not fall under the equal protection clause of the 14th(?) amnedment.
    Because, once again, it has been legally defined as such. Sorry, it's just the way it is right now. Maybe it will change, maybe it won't. I suspect it may, eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Because, once again, it has been legally defined as such. Sorry, it's just the way it is right now. Maybe it will change, maybe it won't. I suspect it may, eventually.
    Yeah I realize that and understand it is the law, but it doesn't mean it makes sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    Aren't we supposed to have checks and balances in our system to keep stuff like this from happening?

    You want a "checks and balances" AGAINST the direct vote of the people?

    Why dont you ask about "checks and balances" against votes you favor? Perhaps you would appreciate some judge coming in to void your vote on one of those issues?

    If there is one thing worse than that oft mentioned "tyranny of the majority" it would surely be the tyranny of the minority.

    Why have votes Sully? Seriously. Lets just appoint Three Wise Men to make all these decisions for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Their rights to what, got voted away? To marry? It is illegal to have anal sex in Alabama, but I don't think people who engage in that are ever going to take it to the election booth. Why, you might ask? Because they are normal!!!!

    Once again, why do two men or two women need to get married?

    Yes, sterile heterosexuals should be allowed to get married. With all the advancements in medicine, today, I really doubt anyone is sterile. A friend mine was told he was sterile after years of attempts. Then his wife got pregnant. It could only happen because it was a guy and girl.

    Tell me this. What, other than tax privileges, do gay people have to gain by being married? No one is stopping them from living together and enjoying their lives, right now.

    By the way, I AM wanting to start a blonde-big tittied parade. You in?
    A person has to be nearly brain dead not to recognize that denying another human being the right to marry the person of their choosing just because that person happens to be the same sex as them is denying them a right that the majority of Americans enjoy and thus making them unequal. It is clearly and undeniably against the constitution of the United States but then conservatives never said they supported the constitiution at all, did they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    You're making a logically flawed argument. He's not being discriminated against based on his gender, he's being discriminated against based on his sexual preference. You're really stretching to try and include one under the other.

    There are some states that are passing laws that put homosexuals as a protected class under their state constitutions, which is perfectly legal. If those laws get passed in a state, then a gay marriage ban would be deemed unconstitutonal.
    He is being discriminated against based upon his sexual orientation, not sexual preference. And it is indeed related to his gender, if he were a woman who wanted to marry a man, he/she would be allowed to but because he happens to be a man, he is not allowed to.

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    For all of you who want everyone treated equally under the law... I assume you are against all affirmative action policies and all laws giving preferential treatment to companies with union workers over those who arent unionized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tight-Waist View Post
    For all of you who want everyone treated equally under the law... I assume you are against all affirmative action policies and all laws giving preferential treatment to companies with union workers over those who arent unionized.
    Of course not, affirmative action policies are intended to equalize long standing wrongs. They serve their purpose and one day can be eliminated when we live in a color blind world. And there are no laws that give preferential treatment to union workers over non union workers, how silly you must be to believe such a thing.

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    If a gay couple wants to get married, why not just go to thai land & get a sex change op? In every gay couple there is always a BOTTOM & a TOP, (male/female). Why not just MAKE IT OFFICIAL. That would end the argument. ;-P

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